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Просопографическая база данных «Новгородские и псковские служилые люди начала XVII века»
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В базу данных включены все лица, упомянутые в материалах архива Новгородской приказной избы 1611–1617 гг. и жившие в то время в Новгороде и Новгородской земле, а также скончавшиеся незадолго до установления в Новгороде режима Делагарди – Одоевского, но неоднократно упоминающиеся в материалах архива. Кроме того, туда были включены те новгородцы-участники событий Смуты на Северо-Западе, которые оказались на стороне другого лагеря и принимали участие в боевых действиях на стороне Пскова и Москвы. Самые молодые из этих людей были поверстаны окладами (приняты на службу) под Тихвином и Бронницами или в Москве в 1613–1617 гг., отправившись туда вместе с отцами, дядьями и старшими братьями. Надо сказать, что на службе в Новгороде в 1611–1617 гг. осталось небольшое количество служилых людей Обонежской и Бежецкой пятин; немного и дворян Деревской пятины, особенно молодых. Напротив, большая часть обонежского и бежецкого дворянства оказалась на стороне ярославского, а позднее – московского правительства. После возвращения Новгорода под власть московских царей в начале 1617 г. именно дворяне Обонежской пятины назначаются дозорщиками и переписчиками сохранившегося в Новгороде имущества.
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 Бурцовы
Афанасий Григорьев Бурцов
Сын боярский.
По сведениям С.Шокарева, сын боярский, пусторжевец. В 1604 г. получил оклад в 10 рублей, в 1610 - 23 рубля ([Шокарев С.] Указатель имен // Хроники Смутного времени. М., 1998. С.  482).
Ушел вместе с кн. Михаилом Васильевичем Скопиным Шуйским из Новгорода к Ивангороду в 1608 г., но по пути в Ивангород от него отъехал и сообщил в Новгород весть об отъезде того (Новый летописец // Хроники Смутного времени. М., 1998. 326).
На распродаже имущества казненного М.И.Татищева купил "кафтан холодной, сукно вишнево лундыш, ветчан, нашивка в 12 местех, шолк вишнев с серебром в полнос", "10 аршин тафты немецкие", "ожерелишко, бархат космат литовской чюбар, ветчано", "бобрик ярой" (Опись и продажа с публичного торга оставшегося имения по убиению народом обвиненного в измене Михайлы Татищева в 116 году. 1608/09 // ВОИДР. Кн. 8. 1850. С. 1, 5, 6).
18 января 1611 г. получил из новгородского винного погреба 3 ведра вина (Сборник памятей на Новгородский винный погреб о выдаче вина // RA, NOA, serie 2: 124, л. 68). 18 марта должен был получил еще ведро вина на свою сотню дворян и детей боярских "для старорусской посылки" (там же, л. 115), но смог получить только 23 марта (там же, л. 119)..
3 января 1611 г. о его поместье в Псковском уезде под Смоленском бил челом Иван Симанский (Реестр жалованных листов короля Сигизмунда русским людям на вотчины и поместья. Под Смоленском, 1611 // Сухотин Л.М. Земельные пожалования в Московском государстве при царе Владиславе. 1610-1611 гг. М., 1911. С. 121).
инокиня Александра, жена Афанасия Бурцова
В Псково-Печерском монастыре сохранилось керамическое надгробие инокини Александры Бурцовой, жены Афанасия Бурцова, скончавшейся 25 октября 1610 г. (Плешанова И.И. Керамические надгробные плиты Псково-Печерского монастыря // НЭ. Т. 6. 1966. С. 149-206. № 81).

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Встречали?

http://www.history-ryazan.ru/node/2674?page=0%2C0

Бурцев Иванко Переяславль Залесский 1562 ГР-XVI
Бурцев Михаил Ржева Пустая (Заволочье) 1582/83 ГР-XVI
Бурцев Долмат Тула 1587-89 ГР-XVI
Бурцев Остафий Костентинов сын Дедилов 1587-89 ГР-XVI
Бурцев Салко Дедилов 1587-89 ГР-XVI
Бурцев Сенка Дедилов 1587-89 ГР-XVI
Бурцов Степан Афонасьев сын Орешек 1568/69 ГР-XVI
Бурцов Офонасий Григорьев сын Ржева Пустая (Заволочье) 1582/83 ГР-XVI
Бурцов Первушка Калуга 1590-е ГР-XVI
Бурцов Рудак Свияжск 1565-68 ГР-XVI

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hgv, спасибо за информацию! Трудно пока что сказать, откуда могут быть родом старооскольские Бурцевы, включая моих: карельского, псковского или рязанского происхождения. Пока что копаю потихонечьку в реверсном направлении. На сегодняшний день, насколько понимаю, мой двоюродный брат - первый Бурцев с протестированной Y-хромосомой. Буду также ждать пополнения с Y других Бурцевых :)
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hgv, спасибо за информацию! Трудно пока что сказать, откуда могут быть родом старооскольские Бурцевы, включая моих: карельского, псковского или рязанского происхождения. Пока что копаю потихонечьку в реверсном направлении. На сегодняшний день, насколько понимаю, мой двоюродный брат - первый Бурцев с протестированной Y-хромасомой. Буду также ждать пополнения с Y других Бурцевых :)

Бурцевы же и в Дедилове были. А оттуда переселяли служилых в Оскол (1615 г.).

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Бурцевы же и в Дедилове были. А оттуда переселяли служилых в Оскол (1615 г.).

Где-то к этому времени относится информация о Фотейке Фёдорове сыне Бурцове:

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XVII век

В Списокъ съ дозорной и межевой книги города Оскола и его посада и помѣстныхъ земель въ станѣхъ: Окологородномъ, Ублицкомъ, Чуфичевскомъ, Дубенскомъ и Орлицкомъ. Письма, дозора и межеванья Осипа Секерина и подъячаго Добрыни Русанова. 1615 года записано:

"Село Короваево, а Горосимъ тожъ на рѣкѣ на Осколу, усть рѣчки Горосима. Въ томъ селѣ жеребьи помѣщиковъ: Семенъ Онофреевъ сынъ Миляевъ, Гриша Миляевъ сынъ Душкинъ, Яковъ Ѳоминъ сынъ Устиновъ, Ѳектистъ Офонасьевъ сынъ Колюнановъ, Левонтей Яковлевъ сынъ Тетуровъ, Недоросль Пронка Провоторховъ сынъ Устиновъ, Логвинъ Петровъ сынъ Чечулинъ, Клементей Ѳедоровъ сынъ Кайсаровъ, Ѳотейка Ѳедоровъ сынъ Бурцовъ, Васка Микифоровъ сынъ Неретинъ, Иванъ Родивоновъ сынъ Прончаковъ, Иванъ Саввинъ сынъ Головинъ, Григорей Ивановъ сынъ Жердевъ, Кузьма Омельяновъ сынъ Набережневъ, Донило Провоторховъ сынъ Татариновъ, Василей Семеновъ сынъ Онофреевъ, Познякъ Михайловъ сынъ Пузиковъ, Бѣляй Ондреевъ сынъ Кошкоревъ, Ерема Офонасьевъ сынъ Бутаковъ, Обокумъ Тимофеевъ сынъ Обокумовъ, Григорей Анофреевъ сынъ Родивоновъ, Ортемъ Ивановъ сынъ Семеновъ, Кирѣй Петровъ сынъ Гревцовъ. И всего въ селѣ Короваевѣ 23 дворъ помѣщиковъ живущихъ, а людей въ нихъ тожъ. И обоего пашни паханы доброй земли и на пашнѣ дубровы и дикаго поля 3 сохи безъ полъ чети и безъ пол-пол-трети сохи въ полѣ, а въ дву потомужъ и перешло на сошное письмо четвертныя пашни осмина.

Но, Бурцевых много, сегодня вот даже в Данковский уезд заглянул с ними :)

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Так, и на всякий случай выложу здесь результаты Eurogenes K36 моей мамы:

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East_Central_Euro   24.81
Eastern_Euro   21.64
Fennoscandian   13.75
North_Sea   9.85
Central_Euro   7.91
East_Balkan   6.71
Iberian   4.14
North_Atlantic   3.60
French   2.02
Basque   1.94
West_Med   1.70
South_Central_Asian   1.22
Italian   0.25
Volga-Ural   0.23
West_African   0.19

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Так, и на всякий случай выложу здесь результаты Eurogenes K36 моей мамы:

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East_Central_Euro   24.81
Eastern_Euro   21.64
Fennoscandian   13.75
North_Sea   9.85
Central_Euro   7.91
East_Balkan   6.71
Iberian   4.14
North_Atlantic   3.60
French   2.02
Basque   1.94
West_Med   1.70
South_Central_Asian   1.22
Italian   0.25
Volga-Ural   0.23
West_African   0.19

На мой взгляд, достаточно характерно для полесских русских (в широком смысле) популяций.

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На мой взгляд, достаточно характерно для полесских русских (в широком смысле) популяций.

Огромное Вам спасибо, Станислав!

С Вашего позволения публикую более подробный анализ результатов Eurogenes K36. Весьма неожиданный поворот, пошёл на (поздний сегодня) обед и обдумывание полученной информации: :)

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По Вашей маме:

По моему, видны полесские корни. С одной стороны достаточно высокий East Central Euro (ок 25%), что как раз характерно для балто-беларуско-полесских популяций. С другой стороны умеренные значения Fennoscandian (13%), характерные для СРЕДНИХ русских, беларусов и северных (но не южных) украинцев. Высокий North Sea характерен для западных русских, Central Euro тоже достаточно высок, что относит опять таки к центральноевропейским популяциям (в т. ч характерно для украинских и беларуских полещуков). Южные маркеры умеренно высокие (Iberian, East Balcan, West Med) для русских популяций. В то же время высокое значение Eastern Euro характерно именно для восточного "крыла" полесских популяций.

Как по мне, без сюрпризов, характерные значения для циркумполесских популяций (Волынь, Беларусь, русский Юго-Запад, Северщина). Причем, более восточной русской примеси не наблюдается.

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В очередной раз выражаю свою благодарность Сергею Козлову за обработку Family Finder Raw Data!

Результаты мамы:




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Вначале заинтриговало то, что на первом месте Balt 68,22, на втором - Moksha 68,18, а на третьем - Russian-West 67,47.

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Balt 68,22 ---//Confidence: very high
Moksha 68,18 ---//Confidence: low
Russian-West 67,47 ---//Confidence: very high
Ukrainian-East-and-Center 66,88 ---//Confidence: high
Belarusian 63,1 ---//Confidence: very high
Estonian 61,06 ---//Confidence: very high
Polish 60,92 ---//Confidence: very high
Erzya 60,2 ---//Confidence: medium
Russian-South 60,19 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-North-East 60,1 ---//Confidence: very high
Karelian 57,54 ---//Confidence: high
Ukrainian-West-and-Center 57 ---//Confidence: high
Bosnian 56,37 ---//Confidence: medium
Veps 56,1 ---//Confidence: medium
Swedish 55,89 ---//Confidence: high
Russian-North-Kargopol 55,5 ---//Confidence: very high
Finnish-East 55,09 ---//Confidence: high
Serbian 54,16 ---//Confidence: high
Hungarian 53,37 ---//Confidence: very high
Slovenian 52,24 ---//Confidence: high
Cornish 51,22 ---//Confidence: very high
Slovak 51,11 ---//Confidence: high
Croatian 50,87 ---//Confidence: very high
English 50,62 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-Pomor 50,54 ---//Confidence: medium
Gagauz 50,4 ---//Confidence: medium
Norwegian 48,76 ---//Confidence: high
Finnish-West 48,73 ---//Confidence: high
Bulgarian 48,49 ---//Confidence: high
Komi 48,23 ---//Confidence: high
Tatar-Volga 47,72 ---//Confidence: high
Irish-and-Scottish 47,61 ---//Confidence: high
Montenegrian 46,16 ---//Confidence: medium
German 45,72 ---//Confidence: medium
Romanian 45,13 ---//Confidence: medium
Greek_Azov 44,37 ---//Confidence: low
French 43,8 ---//Confidence: very high
Spanish 42,69 ---//Confidence: very high
Macedonian 41,79 ---//Confidence: medium
Basque 41,66 ---//Confidence: very high
Chuvash 41,31 ---//Confidence: very high
Mari 40,98 ---//Confidence: high
Balkarian 40,64 ---//Confidence: very high
Tuscan 40,32 ---//Confidence: very high
Greek 39,97 ---//Confidence: very high
Udmurt 38,65 ---//Confidence: high
Italian-South 38,47 ---//Confidence: high
Kosovar 37,68 ---//Confidence: medium
Sardinian 37,08 ---//Confidence: very high
Tatar-Crimean 36,69 ---//Confidence: low
Saami 36,66 ---//Confidence: medium
Lezgin 36,3 ---//Confidence: very high
Bashkir 35,27 ---//Confidence: very high
Adygei 35,2 ---//Confidence: high
Sicilian 35,16 ---//Confidence: very high
Ashkenazi 35,11 ---//Confidence: high
Tatar_Lithuanian 35,01 ---//Confidence: very low
Chechen 34,73 ---//Confidence: very high
Kurd 34,35 ---//Confidence: low
Nogay 33,11 ---//Confidence: high
Cypriot 32,63 ---//Confidence: medium
Ossetian 32,07 ---//Confidence: high
Georgian 31,87 ---//Confidence: very high
Pamiri 31,38 ---//Confidence: very high
Turkish 30,82 ---//Confidence: very high
Tadjik 30,32 ---//Confidence: high
Kumyk 30,18 ---//Confidence: high
Sephard 30,05 ---//Confidence: high
Azerbaijani 29,61 ---//Confidence: high
Abkhazian 29,49 ---//Confidence: very high
Kalash 28,1 ---//Confidence: very high
Iranian 26,63 ---//Confidence: very high
Shor 26,12 ---//Confidence: low
Turkmen 26,09 ---//Confidence: very high
Brahui 25,13 ---//Confidence: very high
Armenian 25,06 ---//Confidence: high
Kanjar 24,83 ---//Confidence: low
Druze 24,64 ---//Confidence: very high
Pathan 24,42 ---//Confidence: very high
Uzbek 24,32 ---//Confidence: high
Selkup 23,61 ---//Confidence: high
Syrian 23,41 ---//Confidence: high
Sindhi 22,96 ---//Confidence: very high
Hazara 22,88 ---//Confidence: very high
UAE 22,7 ---//Confidence: medium
Burusho 22,53 ---//Confidence: very high
Balochi 22,48 ---//Confidence: very high
Kazah 22,08 ---//Confidence: high
Makrani 21,95 ---//Confidence: very high
Jordanian 21,77 ---//Confidence: very high
Moroccan 21,73 ---//Confidence: very high
Palestinian 21,58 ---//Confidence: very high
Bedouin 21,52 ---//Confidence: very high
Uygur 21,44 ---//Confidence: medium
Saud 21,43 ---//Confidence: very high
Mansi 21,42 ---//Confidence: medium
Dolgan 19,76 ---//Confidence: medium
Gujarati 19,58 ---//Confidence: very high
Uttar-Pradesh-HC 19,14 ---//Confidence: high
Altaian 18,99 ---//Confidence: very high
Nenets 18,87 ---//Confidence: high
Tunisian 18,67 ---//Confidence: medium
Uttar-Pradesh 18,58 ---//Confidence: very high
Ket 18,52 ---//Confidence: low
Kirgiz 18,07 ---//Confidence: very high
Hakas 18,01 ---//Confidence: medium
Yemenite 17,88 ---//Confidence: medium
Mongol 17,32 ---//Confidence: medium
Karnataka 16,92 ---//Confidence: medium
Kol 16,34 ---//Confidence: high
Nganassan 16,05 ---//Confidence: high
Andhra-Pradesh 15,08 ---//Confidence: medium
Tuvinian 14,48 ---//Confidence: very high
Evenk 14,05 ---//Confidence: high
Egyptian 13,6 ---//Confidence: medium
Kalmyk 13,45 ---//Confidence: medium
Buryat 13,09 ---//Confidence: very high
Tamil-Nadu 12,79 ---//Confidence: high
Yakut 12,21 ---//Confidence: very high
Nivh 10,86 ---//Confidence: low
Daur 10,71 ---//Confidence: medium
Kerala 10,36 ---//Confidence: medium
Burmese 10,13 ---//Confidence: high
Tu 9,78 ---//Confidence: low
Oroqen 9,43 ---//Confidence: medium
Maya 9,06 ---//Confidence: very high
Tujia 8,98 ---//Confidence: medium
Hezhen 8,69 ---//Confidence: low
Miao 8,56 ---//Confidence: medium
She 8,29 ---//Confidence: medium
Munda 8,26 ---//Confidence: very high
Japanese 8,2 ---//Confidence: very high
Naga 7,06 ---//Confidence: very low
Cambodian 7,03 ---//Confidence: medium
Even 6,96 ---//Confidence: medium
Han-North 6,96 ---//Confidence: medium
Melanesian 6,83 ---//Confidence: low
Lahu 6,73 ---//Confidence: low
Mongola 6,49 ---//Confidence: medium
Yi 6,48 ---//Confidence: medium
Han 5,51 ---//Confidence: very high
Xibo 5,46 ---//Confidence: medium
Naxi 5,32 ---//Confidence: low
Dai 5,17 ---//Confidence: medium
Ethiopian 4,53 ---//Confidence: high
Karitiana 2,4 ---//Confidence: medium
Papuan 1,09 ---//Confidence: high
BantuKenia 1 ---//Confidence: low
« Последнее редактирование: 03 Октябрь 2017, 08:58:24 от Yaroslav »

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4 Ancestors Oracle

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 3,009608
2 Russian_Bryansk @ 3,083274
3 Russian_Ryazan @ 3,089224
4 Russian_Moscow @ 3,635717
5 Russian_Saratov @ 3,679864
6 Russian_Tambov @ 3,691255
7 Russian_Lipetsk @ 3,728054
8 Russian_Voronezh @ 3,783025
9 Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,949175
10 Russian_Murom @ 3,981767
11 Russian_Tver @ 4,010113
12 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 4,13497
13 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,137575
14 Russian_Arzamas @ 4,438293
15 Russian_Uglich @ 4,710943
16 Russian_Ivanovo @ 4,78596
17 Belarusian_Minsk @ 4,967915
18 Russian_Novgorod @ 4,990515
19 Belarusian_Gomel @ 5,015387
20 Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 5,139782
21 Belarusian_Mogilyov @ 5,35028
22 Belarusian_West @ 5,581703
23 Russian_Andreapol @ 5,589852
24 Polish @ 5,591486
25 Russian_Kuban @ 5,602132
26 Russian_Smolensk @ 5,899444
27 Russian_Don_Cossack @ 6,175448
28 Russian_Pskov @ 6,474521
29 Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk @ 6,492322
30 Belarusian_Vitebsk @ 6,582179
31 Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 6,826614
32 Russian_Unzha @ 6,91021
33 Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 7,505762
34 Erzya @ 8,1125
35 Russian_Siberia @ 8,246947
36 Ukrainian_Lvov @ 8,436706
37 Moksha @ 8,859371
38 Russian_Solvychegodsk @ 9,007728
39 Russian_Kargopol_HGDP @ 9,48321
40 Russian_Vyatka @ 9,60753
41 Lithuanian @ 10,111047
42 Russian_Ural_East @ 10,672954
43 Slovak @ 11,528567
44 Russian_Baykal @ 12,113951
45 Russian_Ural_West @ 12,154207
46 Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 15,107832
47 Latgalian @ 15,678519
48 Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 16,454858
49 Tatar_Mishar_Drozzhanovskiy @ 17,12976
50 Russian_North_Dvina @ 17,150638

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Novgorod+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,102191
2 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,437387
3 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,493731
4 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Tambov @ 2,536687
5 Russian_Novgorod+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,537038
6 Polish+Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 2,600216
7 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,636878
8 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Novgorod @ 2,638482
9 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Tambov @ 2,64309
10 Polish+Russian_Novgorod @ 2,675245
11 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Saratov @ 2,706466
12 Russian_Uglich+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,718375
13 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,719723
14 Russian_Novgorod+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 2,763543
15 Russian_Uglich+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,764855
16 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Uglich @ 2,777936
17 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 2,78079
18 Russian_Uglich+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 2,798257
19 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Uglich @ 2,819627
20 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,847168
21 Russian_Moscow+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,848171
22 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,851846
23 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Pskov @ 2,858957
24 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,869758
25 Russian_Novgorod+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 2,881094
26 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Moscow @ 2,882956
27 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Moscow @ 2,899902
28 Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,916312
29 Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,935056
30 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,954016
31 Russian_Ivanovo+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,957768
32 Russian_Moscow+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,961136
33 Russian_Ustyuzhna+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,965883
34 Russian_Ustyuzhna+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 2,970863
35 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 2,973514
36 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tambov @ 2,9776
37 Russian_Ryazan+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,998201
38 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Uglich @ 2,999154
39 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Murom @ 3,006204
40 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 3,009608
41 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,023712
42 Russian_Pskov+Russian_Tambov @ 3,030617
43 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,03691
44 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,055738
45 Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,063644
46 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk @ 3,069802
47 Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 3,070903
48 Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,071673
49 Russian_Ryazan+Russian_Saratov @ 3,072187
50 Belarusian_West+Russian_Novgorod @ 3,083212

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,718123
2 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Estonian @ 1,730739
3 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,76333
4 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,763474
5 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Estonian @ 1,770017
6 50% Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,7886
7 50% Russian_Andreapol +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,811311
8 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,863722
9 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,882218
10 50% Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina +25% Estonian +25% Slovak @ 1,89218
11 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Estonian @ 1,892903
12 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 1,895472
13 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Estonian @ 1,896728
14 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,897152
15 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,898034
16 50% Russian_Kuban +25% Estonian +25% Slovak @ 1,904433
17 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 1,92246
18 50% Lithuanian +25% Bulgarian +25% Estonian @ 1,928851
19 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Andreapol @ 1,94411
20 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 1,949674
21 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Estonian +25% Moldavian @ 1,949763
22 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 1,952384
23 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Ustyuzhna +25% Slovak @ 1,956145
24 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,9576
25 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,966401
26 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Kuban @ 1,971155
27 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,984365
28 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 2,00401
29 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Polish @ 2,005098
30 50% Lithuanian +25% Estonian +25% Serbian @ 2,049529
31 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 2,053246
32 50% Russian_Lipetsk +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 2,059604
33 50% Russian_Lipetsk +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Novgorod @ 2,070651
34 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 2,079363
35 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 2,08247
36 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 2,082688
37 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Estonian @ 2,084044
38 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Tambov @ 2,093941
39 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 2,098743
40 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Estonian +25% Slovak @ 2,102269
41 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Estonian @ 2,102315
42 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Don_Cossack @ 2,103931
43 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 2,105507
44 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 2,106097
45 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Pskov @ 2,107298
46 50% Russian_Andreapol +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 2,114218
47 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Estonian @ 2,118197
48 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Murom @ 2,120171
49 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Kuban @ 2,125657
50 50% Ukrainian_Chernigov +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Lvov @ 2,126561

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belarusian_Minsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,581949
2 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,673908
3 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,675216
4 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,67915
5 Belarusian_Minsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,681281
6 Belarusian_Gomel+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,682901
7 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,683159
8 Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,692065
9 Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk+Serbian @ 1,697718
10 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,703303
11 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,707739
12 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,709316
13 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,711163
14 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,716488
15 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,718123
16 Belarusian_West+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,725422
17 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,730739
18 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Minsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,732986
19 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,743291
20 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,746209
21 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,746492
22 Estonian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,752094
23 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,752811
24 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,754524
25 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,755385
26 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Kuban @ 1,757215
27 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,760895
28 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,76333
29 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Minsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,763474
30 Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Poltava+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,766902
31 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,768296
32 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,770017
33 Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,770772
34 Estonian+Polish+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,77236
35 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,773652
36 Belarusian_Gomel+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,775929
37 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,776137
38 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,776318
39 Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,778364
40 Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,778444
41 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,781081
42 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,782484
43 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,782969
44 Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,78355
45 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,785485
46 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,785497
47 Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,7886
48 Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,792257
49 Estonian+Polish+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,797811
50 Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,79997
51 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,802807
52 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Lithuanian+Serbian @ 1,803579
53 Estonian+Polish+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,804817
54 Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 1,806122
55 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,811311
56 Belarusian_Gomel+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Pskov @ 1,811988
57 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,816089
58 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 1,817677
59 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Slovak @ 1,820004
60 Estonian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,821116
61 Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,822128
62 Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,827375
63 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,828986
64 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,830658
65 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,830994
66 Belarusian_West+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,832336
67 Belarusian_West+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,832791
68 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,83561
69 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,83569
70 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Belarusian_West+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,837589
71 Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,843224
72 Estonian+Polish+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,845243
73 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,845804
74 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,846421
75 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Voronezh @ 1,847906
76 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,851672
77 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,857347
78 Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Don_Cossack+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,857359
79 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,861243
80 Estonian+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,861999
81 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,86325
82 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,863722
83 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,863933
84 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Slovak @ 1,864535
85 Estonian+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,865478
86 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,865937
87 Estonian+Polish+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,87322
88 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,873352
89 Belarusian_West+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Pskov @ 1,873404
90 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,874073
91 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Polish+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,874632
92 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Ustyuzhna+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,874756
93 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,877358
94 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,87838
95 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Polish+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,878933
96 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Pskov @ 1,879137
97 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,879346
98 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Bryansk @ 1,881787
99 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Bulgarian+Estonian+Lithuanian @ 1,881895
100 Estonian+Ukrainian_Poltava+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,882218
4252035 iterations.

Оффлайн YaroslavАвтор темы

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  • Страна: ru
  • Рейтинг +4702/-14
  • 76% East Europe + 17% Finland
  • Y-ДНК: J1a2b1a ZS3067, ЖМ: I2a1a2b1a1a1a1 FT37540, МЖМ: G2a2b1a1a1a2b2a FT159945
  • мтДНК: K1b1a1 T199C, МЖ: H13a1a1d
Теперь посмотрим на результаты двоюродного брата, у которого, как я уже говорил, отец был старшим братом моей мамы (также со Старооскольщины), а мама - родом из станицы Воровсколесская Ставропольского края, с предками, выходцами из Украины. В частности, девичья фамилия мамы его мамы - Кононенко(-ва), известно, что она была из казаков этой станицы, а её мама, по преданию, вообще из украинских цыган. Что вроде как в приведённых ниже данных не просматривается - если это предание вообще соответствует действительности.




Оффлайн YaroslavАвтор темы

  • Сообщений: 18723
  • Страна: ru
  • Рейтинг +4702/-14
  • 76% East Europe + 17% Finland
  • Y-ДНК: J1a2b1a ZS3067, ЖМ: I2a1a2b1a1a1a1 FT37540, МЖМ: G2a2b1a1a1a2b2a FT159945
  • мтДНК: K1b1a1 T199C, МЖ: H13a1a1d
Всё так же на первом месте балтский компонент, мокшанский покинул второе место, переместившись на девятое, а его место занял южнорусский. Западнорусский компонент остался на третьем месте.

Balt 68,81 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-South 64,99 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-West 64,37 ---//Confidence: very high
Ukrainian-East-and-Center 63,51 ---//Confidence: high
Ukrainian-West-and-Center 60,84 ---//Confidence: high
Polish 60,68 ---//Confidence: very high
Hungarian 59,87 ---//Confidence: very high
Belarusian 59,69 ---//Confidence: very high
Moksha 58 ---//Confidence: low
Russian-North-Kargopol 56,87 ---//Confidence: very high
Bosnian 54,51 ---//Confidence: medium
Estonian 54,22 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-Pomor 53,75 ---//Confidence: medium
Serbian 53,71 ---//Confidence: high
Croatian 53,64 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-North-East 52,94 ---//Confidence: very high
Slovenian 51,45 ---//Confidence: high
Erzya 51,35 ---//Confidence: medium
Komi 50,96 ---//Confidence: high
Finnish-East 50,27 ---//Confidence: high
Irish-and-Scottish 50,16 ---//Confidence: high
Karelian 49,56 ---//Confidence: high
Gagauz 49,45 ---//Confidence: medium
Finnish-West 49,16 ---//Confidence: high
Montenegrian 48,91 ---//Confidence: medium
Slovak 48,48 ---//Confidence: high
German 48,24 ---//Confidence: medium
Veps 47,29 ---//Confidence: medium
English 47,07 ---//Confidence: very high
Swedish 47,04 ---//Confidence: high
Bulgarian 46,53 ---//Confidence: high
Norwegian 45,09 ---//Confidence: high
Greek_Azov 44,15 ---//Confidence: low
Macedonian 44,11 ---//Confidence: medium
Cornish 43,69 ---//Confidence: very high
Kosovar 42,74 ---//Confidence: medium
Basque 40,89 ---//Confidence: very high
Chuvash 40,86 ---//Confidence: very high
Greek 40,5 ---//Confidence: very high
Tuscan 40,42 ---//Confidence: very high
Tatar-Volga 40,41 ---//Confidence: high
French 39,85 ---//Confidence: very high
Tatar_Lithuanian 39,13 ---//Confidence: very low
Udmurt 39,04 ---//Confidence: high
Mari 38,77 ---//Confidence: high
Sardinian 38,56 ---//Confidence: very high
Italian-South 38,53 ---//Confidence: high
Adygei 38,4 ---//Confidence: high
Spanish 37,85 ---//Confidence: very high
Romanian 36,08 ---//Confidence: medium
Ashkenazi 35,05 ---//Confidence: high
Tatar-Crimean 34,42 ---//Confidence: low
Kumyk 32,81 ---//Confidence: high
Balkarian 32,74 ---//Confidence: very high
Armenian 32,74 ---//Confidence: high
Abkhazian 31,32 ---//Confidence: very high
Nogay 31,09 ---//Confidence: high
Sicilian 31,05 ---//Confidence: very high
Sephard 30,82 ---//Confidence: high
Ossetian 30,73 ---//Confidence: high
Chechen 30,67 ---//Confidence: very high
Georgian 30,67 ---//Confidence: very high
Turkish 30,66 ---//Confidence: very high
Cypriot 30,34 ---//Confidence: medium
Lezgin 30,16 ---//Confidence: very high
Kurd 29,94 ---//Confidence: low
Pamiri 29,18 ---//Confidence: very high
Bashkir 28,76 ---//Confidence: very high
Azerbaijani 28,13 ---//Confidence: high
Syrian 28,09 ---//Confidence: high
Saami 27,37 ---//Confidence: medium
Iranian 26,51 ---//Confidence: very high
Tadjik 25,53 ---//Confidence: high
Turkmen 25,35 ---//Confidence: very high
Saud 25,2 ---//Confidence: very high
Jordanian 25,08 ---//Confidence: very high
Druze 24,68 ---//Confidence: very high
Pathan 24,52 ---//Confidence: very high
Kalash 23,78 ---//Confidence: very high
Mansi 23,7 ---//Confidence: medium
Uzbek 23,07 ---//Confidence: high
Palestinian 22,77 ---//Confidence: very high
Kazah 22,48 ---//Confidence: high
Makrani 22,44 ---//Confidence: very high
Balochi 22,32 ---//Confidence: very high
Shor 21,87 ---//Confidence: low
Burusho 21,23 ---//Confidence: very high
Bedouin 21,09 ---//Confidence: very high
Tunisian 21,01 ---//Confidence: medium
UAE 20,81 ---//Confidence: medium
Brahui 20,79 ---//Confidence: very high
Egyptian 20,42 ---//Confidence: medium
Sindhi 19,95 ---//Confidence: very high
Selkup 19,33 ---//Confidence: high
Hazara 19,31 ---//Confidence: very high
Altaian 19,06 ---//Confidence: very high
Uygur 18,77 ---//Confidence: medium
Yemenite 18,55 ---//Confidence: medium
Moroccan 17,96 ---//Confidence: very high
Uttar-Pradesh-HC 17,57 ---//Confidence: high
Uttar-Pradesh 16,81 ---//Confidence: very high
Kirgiz 16,78 ---//Confidence: very high
Tamil-Nadu 15,83 ---//Confidence: high
Andhra-Pradesh 15,79 ---//Confidence: medium
Hakas 15,65 ---//Confidence: medium
Gujarati 14,37 ---//Confidence: very high
Kalmyk 14,12 ---//Confidence: medium
Kol 13,85 ---//Confidence: high
Kanjar 13,65 ---//Confidence: low
Tuvinian 13,12 ---//Confidence: very high
Dolgan 12,49 ---//Confidence: medium
Nenets 12,31 ---//Confidence: high
Ket 11,81 ---//Confidence: low
Yakut 11,35 ---//Confidence: very high
Evenk 11,22 ---//Confidence: high
Karnataka 10,86 ---//Confidence: medium
Maya 10,44 ---//Confidence: very high
Mongol 10,31 ---//Confidence: medium
Mongola 10,24 ---//Confidence: medium
Kerala 9,63 ---//Confidence: medium
Nivh 9,44 ---//Confidence: low
Xibo 9,14 ---//Confidence: medium
Nganassan 9 ---//Confidence: high
Burmese 8,88 ---//Confidence: high
Tu 8,82 ---//Confidence: low
Buryat 8,66 ---//Confidence: very high
Hezhen 8,65 ---//Confidence: low
Han-North 8,35 ---//Confidence: medium
Munda 7,78 ---//Confidence: very high
Daur 7,6 ---//Confidence: medium
Cambodian 7,52 ---//Confidence: medium
Oroqen 7,12 ---//Confidence: medium
She 6,89 ---//Confidence: medium
Even 6,64 ---//Confidence: medium
Ethiopian 5,47 ---//Confidence: high
Naxi 5,17 ---//Confidence: low
Yi 5,08 ---//Confidence: medium
Lahu 5 ---//Confidence: low
Japanese 4,99 ---//Confidence: very high
Han 4,84 ---//Confidence: very high
Melanesian 3,86 ---//Confidence: low
Tujia 3,66 ---//Confidence: medium
Dai 3,47 ---//Confidence: medium
Miao 3,03 ---//Confidence: medium
Karitiana 2,17 ---//Confidence: medium
Naga 1,81 ---//Confidence: very low
BantuKenia 0,94 ---//Confidence: low
Papuan 0,82 ---//Confidence: high
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При сравнении с этно-региональными популяциями, Курск/Орёл ушёл с первого места на седьмое, а на первое место вышел Брянск, поднявшись со второго.

Тверь поднялась с одиннадцатого места на второе.

Рязань ушла на шестнадцатое, а её место заняла популяция черниговских украинцев, поднявшаяся с девятого.

Using 1 population approximation:

1 Russian_Bryansk @ 2,942576
2 Russian_Tver @ 3,502578
3 Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,632629
4 Belarusian_Gomel @ 3,767201
5 Russian_Voronezh @ 4,091074
6 Belarusian_West @ 4,1323
7 Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 4,159449
8 Belarusian_Mogilyov @ 4,180314
9 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,236241
10 Polish @ 4,238065
11 Russian_Moscow @ 4,303171
12 Belarusian_Minsk @ 4,348062
13 Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 4,373923
14 Russian_Murom @ 4,395092
15 Russian_Saratov @ 4,495367
16 Russian_Ryazan @ 4,678597
17 Russian_Kuban @ 4,748415
18 Russian_Lipetsk @ 4,793867
19 Russian_Arzamas @ 4,864226
20 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 4,880185
21 Russian_Andreapol @ 5,107451
22 Russian_Tambov @ 5,120703
23 Belarusian_Vitebsk @ 5,291143
24 Russian_Smolensk @ 5,387478
25 Russian_Ivanovo @ 5,781652
26 Russian_Don_Cossack @ 6,066407
27 Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 6,259143
28 Russian_Pskov @ 6,784118
29 Russian_Uglich @ 6,972406
30 Russian_Novgorod @ 7,156366
31 Ukrainian_Lvov @ 8,106483
32 Erzya @ 8,497975
33 Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk @ 8,520857
34 Russian_Unzha @ 8,936977
35 Moksha @ 9,10249
36 Lithuanian @ 9,893025
37 Russian_Siberia @ 10,214006
38 Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 10,788696
39 Russian_Solvychegodsk @ 11,332092
40 Russian_Vyatka @ 11,398355
41 Slovak @ 11,70551
42 Russian_Kargopol_HGDP @ 11,988541
43 Russian_Ural_East @ 12,784047
44 Russian_Baykal @ 13,520931
45 Russian_Ural_West @ 13,917626
46 Latgalian @ 15,53449
47 Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 16,074937
48 Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 16,782357
49 Moldavian @ 17,491489
50 Tatar_Mishar_South_West @ 17,89776

Using 2 populations approximation:

1 Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,638178
2 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,773511
3 Polish+Russian_Arzamas @ 2,789614
4 Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,835394
5 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish @ 2,906775
6 Belarusian_Gomel+Polish @ 2,910325
7 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West @ 2,922159
8 Polish+Russian_Tver @ 2,922515
9 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,933811
10 Polish+Russian_Moscow @ 2,940857
11 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,942576
12 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,963712
13 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,967865
14 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West @ 2,999359
15 Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,009847
16 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_Lipetsk @ 3,012423
17 Belarusian_Gomel+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,020949
18 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 3,021202
19 Belarusian_Gomel+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,028741
20 Belarusian_West+Russian_Moscow @ 3,030719
21 Belarusian_West+Russian_Tver @ 3,055031
22 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,059766
23 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,081676
24 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Voronezh @ 3,090598
25 Russian_Tver+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,100633
26 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,104046
27 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Voronezh @ 3,123916
28 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 3,129803
29 Belarusian_West+Russian_Voronezh @ 3,135922
30 Belarusian_Minsk+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,145493
31 Belarusian_West+Russian_Arzamas @ 3,150563
32 Polish+Russian_Voronezh @ 3,154018
33 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_Voronezh @ 3,157669
34 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Murom @ 3,159269
35 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,166917
36 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Tver @ 3,178166
37 Polish+Russian_Andreapol @ 3,184247
38 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Saratov @ 3,192563
39 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_Tver @ 3,195758
40 Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,196295
41 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Murom @ 3,204489
42 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Tver @ 3,204884
43 Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,206229
44 Polish+Russian_Ivanovo @ 3,221366
45 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Russian_Tambov @ 3,222892
46 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Tambov @ 3,224403
47 Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Lipetsk @ 3,235131
48 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,235231
49 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,235793
50 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish @ 3,236591

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Belarusian_West @ 2,458504
2 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Belarusian_West @ 2,492461
3 50% Polish +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Arzamas @ 2,514704
4 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 2,516452
5 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Belarusian_West @ 2,533019
6 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Polish @ 2,539862
7 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Polish @ 2,55145
8 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,564362
9 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Polish +25% Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,576318
10 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Tver @ 2,590199
11 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Polish @ 2,590625
12 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% German +25% Latgalian @ 2,610092
13 50% Belarusian_West +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 2,618579
14 50% Polish +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Russian_Arzamas @ 2,627768
15 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Polish +25% Russian_Tver @ 2,634422
16 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Polish @ 2,644562
17 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Polish +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 2,651693
18 50% Polish +25% Russian_Arzamas +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 2,652216
19 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Belarusian_West @ 2,653263
20 50% Polish +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Arzamas @ 2,659522
21 50% Russian_Tver +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Polish @ 2,662516
22 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Polish +25% Russian_Arzamas @ 2,6626
23 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Polish +25% Russian_Andreapol @ 2,670539
24 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_West +25% Polish @ 2,673372
25 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Andreapol @ 2,674175
26 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 2,677185
27 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Arzamas @ 2,682609
28 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Polish +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 2,693286
29 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_West +25% Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,695454
30 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Polish +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 2,703546
31 50% Belarusian_West +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 2,705115
32 50% Russian_Tver +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Polish @ 2,707664
33 50% Polish +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Moscow @ 2,708531
34 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Polish +25% Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,709041
35 50% Polish +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Tver @ 2,710194
36 50% Belarusian_West +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 2,711039
37 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Tambov @ 2,711145
38 50% Polish +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 2,711431
39 50% Polish +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 2,713265
40 50% Polish +25% Russian_Andreapol +25% Russian_Arzamas @ 2,713579
41 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Polish +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 2,714798
42 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 2,716769
43 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 2,722689
44 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Arzamas +25% Ukrainian_Lvov @ 2,72402
45 50% Polish +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Meshtchyora @ 2,725721
46 50% Belarusian_West +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Arzamas @ 2,72775
47 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_West +25% Russian_Moscow @ 2,730121
48 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Slovak @ 2,730439
49 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Polish +25% Russian_Tambov @ 2,731535
50 50% Russian_Tver +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Polish @ 2,734109

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,458504
2 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,492461
3 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Polish+Russian_Arzamas @ 2,514704
4 Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,516452
5 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,52617
6 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,533019
7 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,534072
8 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,536929
9 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,539862
10 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,546752
11 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,548971
12 Belarusian_Gomel+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,55145
13 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Arzamas @ 2,555264
14 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,558667
15 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,564362
16 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,576318
17 Belarusian_Gomel+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,580444
18 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,586011
19 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,587486
20 Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,590199
21 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,590625
22 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,592303
23 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,595256
24 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,598385
25 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,599501
26 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,600591
27 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,602935
28 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,604025
29 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,604184
30 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,605589
31 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,609415
32 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,609738
33 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_Mogilyov+German+Latgalian @ 2,610092
34 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Saratov @ 2,611437
35 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,613246
36 Belarusian_Gomel+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,614779
37 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,618579
38 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,619198
39 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Tver+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,619564
40 Belarusian_Gomel+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,623724
41 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,623963
42 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Tver @ 2,626228
43 Belarusian_Gomel+Polish+Polish+Russian_Arzamas @ 2,627768
44 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,629005
45 Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,634422
46 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,634667
47 Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,635831
48 Belarusian_West+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,638178
49 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Saratov @ 2,640018
50 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,644562
51 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,646312
52 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,647472
53 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Tver @ 2,647871
54 Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,651693
55 Polish+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,652216
56 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,653263
57 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,653884
58 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,65628
59 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 2,659014
60 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Polish+Russian_Arzamas @ 2,659522
61 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Saratov @ 2,66193
62 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,662119
63 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Tver+Russian_Tver @ 2,662516
64 Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,6626
65 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Tver+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,663726
66 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Voronezh+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,663915
67 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,665177
68 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tambov @ 2,665228
69 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,667116
70 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,668594
71 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Saratov @ 2,669169
72 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,670231
73 Polish+Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,670539
74 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,670672
75 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Moscow @ 2,672061
76 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Tver @ 2,672261
77 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,672567
78 Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,673372
79 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Voronezh+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,673978
80 Belarusian_West+Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,674175
81 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Saratov @ 2,674407
82 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,675441
83 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Tver+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,676466
84 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Tver+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,676709
85 Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,677185
86 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Moscow @ 2,679321
87 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,679584
88 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Moscow @ 2,679813
89 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,680166
90 Belarusian_West+Croatian+Latgalian+Russian_Arzamas @ 2,681052
91 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Murom @ 2,682127
92 Belarusian_West+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,682609
93 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,684367
94 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Tver @ 2,685665
95 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Polish+Russian_Arzamas @ 2,686992
96 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Saratov @ 2,688708
97 Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,689664
98 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tver @ 2,69017
99 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Minsk+Polish+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,690424
100 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Russian_Bryansk @ 2,692944
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