The new SNP tree of M134+, M117-

[sahaliyan]

Деньги на ветер про те кто в серии F, а те оставшиеся 4 могут быть приватными или общенайманскими.

Then if others don't check those SNPs,we will never know the SNPs are what,not only M134+,M117- samples,but other O3 samples,or even non-O samples should check those SNPs

[asan-kaygy]

We are talking about our naymans. They have F14,F44,F46,F299 anyway

[asan-kaygy]

А вот Денису 4 этих Снипа F14,F44,F46,F299 (они же L1363-66) проверить можно.

[sahaliyan]

We are talking about our naymans. They have F14,F44,F46,F299 anyway

Yes,what I mean is if we don't know other M134XM117 samples are positive or negative of those old or new SNPs,we surely don't know those SNPs are private or other-level SNPs

[sahaliyan]

А вот Денису 4 этих Снипа F14,F44,F46,F299 (они же L1363-66) проверить можно.

I maybe checked those in the future,but the problem is there aren't many Asian samples in FTDNA(theen only three samples),we can't compare the SNP results of them,can we check  L1359,L1360,L1361,L1362 in FTDNA too?

[asan-kaygy]

А вот Денису 4 этих Снипа F14,F44,F46,F299 (они же L1363-66) проверить можно.

I maybe checked those in the future,but the problem is there aren't many Asian samples in FTDNA(theen only three samples),we can't compare the SNP results of them,can we check  L1359,L1360,L1361,L1362 in FTDNA too?

I think we can check it after the taking official results of WTY.
For example we have ordered 6 new SNP for G1a after 3-4 weeks after WTY of our G1a

[sahaliyan]

А вот Денису 4 этих Снипа F14,F44,F46,F299 (они же L1363-66) проверить можно.

I maybe checked those in the future,but the problem is there aren't many Asian samples in FTDNA(theen only three samples),we can't compare the SNP results of them,can we check  L1359,L1360,L1361,L1362 in FTDNA too?

I think we can check it after the taking official results of WTY.
For example we have ordered 6 new SNP for G1a after 3-4 weeks after WTY of our G1a

Do you order other G-samples for comparision?
Are the SNPs L1363-66 can check now?

[asan-kaygy]

We have ordered 6 SNP for another argyn who had the common documented ancestor with WTY participant in first part of 15th century

[sahaliyan]

We have ordered 6 SNP for another argyn who had the common documented ancestor with WTY participant in first part of 15th century

Then you should order non-Argyn G samples and G2 samples for comparison,This is very important,and to make sure those SNPs are downstream of G,we should ckeck non-G samples too.

[asan-kaygy]

I know.
After checking 6 SNP we will test another G1a-P20 persons.

[sahaliyan]

http://eng.molgen.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=780
M122 (O3) equivalent: F129, F400, F433, F471, F633
M324 equivalent (O3a): F113, F166, F27, F341, F36, F406, F572, F71.
P201 equivalent: F525
P164 equivalnet: F130, F131, F299, F422, F427.
M134 equivlanet: F103, F151, F450, F417, F515.

[sahaliyan]

By the way,fjnj is officially O2B1A1B (alpha-1a in Fudan's system) according to Geno 2.0.
As I said some months ago,the tree of O separated into two branches:O1-O2 and O3 first.

[sahaliyan]

А вот Денису 4 этих Снипа F14,F44,F46,F299 (они же L1363-66) проверить можно.

F46=Oβ
F46 is the largest subclade of F444,F444 separated into two branches,F46 and another one,I think Denis Grigoriev is F46-,and should positive of another branch.

[kaa76]

Today's changes from FTDNA

[asan-kaygy]

А вот Денису 4 этих Снипа F14,F44,F46,F299 (они же L1363-66) проверить можно.

F46=Oβ
F46 is the largest subclade of F444,F444 separated into two branches,F46 and another one,I think Denis Grigoriev is F46-,and should positive of another branch.

thank you.