Корейский С3

[asan-kaygy]

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Как понимаю C3d

[asan-kaygy]

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/alash/default.aspx?section=yresults

[sahaliyan]

Looks like C3d,however some C3(XC3c,C3d) and C3d can't distinguish clearly at 12-17 Y-STR

[asan-kaygy]

some C3(XC3c,C3d) and C3d can't distinguish clearly at 12-17 Y-STR

Саn you give me example of C3(XC3c,C3d) with 12-17 Y-STR?

[sahaliyan]

some C3(XC3c,C3d) and C3d can't distinguish clearly at 12-17 Y-STR

Саn you give me example of C3(XC3c,C3d) with 12-17 Y-STR?

Just look at the it,I gave you Manchu wegi,Han Chinese Yan,Mongolian Eltud C3*(this one is star cluster),all of the three samples are C3(XC3c,C3d).

[asan-kaygy]

Where i can see their haplotypes?

[asan-kaygy]

Sorry i do not understand your post.
I mean that 11-17 (12-17, 11-18, 11-19, 12-18) at DYS385a,b is the common marker for C3d

[asan-kaygy]

I have never seen the C3* with 11-17 (12-18) that is why i think that this haplotype belongs to C3d

[sahaliyan]

I have never seen the C3* with 11-17 (12-18) that is why i think that this haplotype belongs to C3d

One Han Chinese from Shandong
DYS19 DYS389I DYS389b DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458  H4 DYS385a DYS385b
15 14 16 23 10 11 14 14 10 12 22 16 19 11 11 17
But SNP not tested

[Nimissin]

One Han Chinese from Shandong
DYS19 DYS389I DYS389b DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458  H4 DYS385a DYS385b
15 14 16 23 10 11 14 14 10 12 22 16 19 11 11 17
But SNP not tested

Looks like C3d.

[asan-kaygy]

One Han Chinese from Shandong
DYS19 DYS389I DYS389b DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458  H4 DYS385a DYS385b
15 14 16 23 10 11 14 14 10 12 22 16 19 11 11 17
But SNP not tested

Looks like C3d.

+100

[chelmohotsky]

Pak N96172  C3    14    22    16    10    11-17    11    13    11    13    11    29    

My father-in-law. His ancestors are from North Korea.

[sahaliyan]

Most Koreans of China,Russia and Central Asia came from Hamgyong region of northeast korea(the royal family of Lee dynasty also came from that region),the region was Jurchen region for a long time,I just guess many Koreans there are just of Jurchen origin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean%E2%80%93Jurchen_border_conflicts
1436 : Two powerful Jurchens tribes (Olyangtap and Holjaon (홀라온;忽剌溫)) crossed the Tuman river and invaded the Hamgildo Province (Hangul : 함길도 Hanja :咸吉道), present-day Hamgyong Province, which have been recently repopulated by Korean settlers.

[asan-kaygy]

Looks like C3d,however some C3(XC3c,C3d) and C3d can't distinguish clearly at 12-17 Y-STR

You were right.
I found the korean C3* (xC3d) with 11-18, 12-18 in 385a,b (Malyarchuk paper)

[asan-kaygy]

Pak N96172  C3    14    22    16    10    11-17    11    13    11    13    11    29    

My father-in-law. His ancestors are from North Korea.

Можете ввести его в проект гаплогруппы С или С3?