Китайцы

[Yurgan]

У меня глюки или постом выше у женщин тоже Y-DNA O?

Ну чего к словам придираться? Вам удобно, когда говорим о населении Земли каждый раз делить на два? А у каждой женщины, как кому-то это парадоксально не покажется, есть отец, а у того соответственно Y.

Женщина, чей отец O, тоже будет O.

[sahaliyan]

DYS19 DYS389I DYS389b DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458 DYS635 H4 DYS385a DYS385b

16 12 17 23 10 13 12 15 10 11 19 15 17 19 11 12 18:M134+,M117-,Li,Jiangxi,Han Chinese
15 12 17 23 10 13 12 15 10 12 19 15 17 19 12 13 18 Kazakh Naimans
This person is 4-step away from the Naimans in 17-YSTR,claimed descendants of Li Yuan-Li Shimin,however I'm not sure if this claim true or false.

[Centurion]

Kazakh Naimans

source of haplotype (pubs)?

[sahaliyan]

Kazakh Naimans

source of haplotype (pubs)?

YHRD EAST KAZAKHSTAN

[asan-kaygy]

Там точно найманы в основном.

[sahaliyan]

Added some more result
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18350-1-1.html
N-M231+,I think he is M178+(his deep test result will be come soon),surname Zhang,both homeland and ancestral homeland located in southern Jiangsu

http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18328-1-1.html
O1a*（M119+，P203-，M110-）,his surname is Mao,homeland is Hubei

http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18335-1-1.html
O1a1 P203+,his surname Jiang(Chiang),homeland southern Jiangsu

http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18347-1-1.html
O1a1 P203+,his surname Zhao,homeland Anhui
DYS19 DYS389I DYS389b DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458 DYS635 H4 DYS385a DYS385b
15 12 16 23 11 14 13 14 10 11 18 17 15 19 14 12 13

[mouglley]

Added some more result
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18350-1-1.html
N-M231+,I think he is M178+(his deep test result will be come soon),surname Zhang,both homeland and ancestral homeland located in southern Jiangsu

Wow! The first Chinese N1 with 67 markers!
We're waiting for it.

[sahaliyan]

http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18343-1-1.html
O3a1c-002611,surname Zheng,homeland Shanxi
DYS19 DYS389I DYS389b DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458 DYS635 H4 DYS385a DYS385b
16 14 16 24 10 13 12 14 10 11 20 14 17 24 12 14 18
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18349-1-1.html
O3a1c-002611,surname Wang,homeland Shanxi
15 12 16 26 10 13 12 14 10 13 20 14 18 21 12 12 19
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18334-1-1.html
O3a2c1* M134+, M117-,surname Xu,homeland Shanxi
15 12 15 23 10 12 12 15 10 12 20 15 18 20 12 12 18
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18354-1-1.html
O3a2c1* M134+, M117-,surname Shen,homeland Shanghai

http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18337-1-1.html
O3a2c1a  M117+,surname Ying,homeland Zhejiang
14 12 15 24 10 14 12 15 11 12 20 15 20 20 12 13 16
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18331-1-1.html
O3a2c1a  M117+,surname Choi,ethnic Korean,homeland Yanbian,Jilin,ancetral homeland Hamgyeong

[sahaliyan]

Added some more result
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18350-1-1.html
N-M231+,I think he is M178+(his deep test result will be come soon),surname Zhang,both homeland and ancestral homeland located in southern Jiangsu

Wow! The first Chinese N1 with 67 markers!
We're waiting for it.

He is tested by Fudan university,so only 17 makers

[sahaliyan]

http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18327-1-1.html
Q,surname Chen,homeland Hunan
DYS19 DYS389I DYS389b DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458 DYS635 H4 DYS385a DYS385b
13 14 16 24 6 15 13 14 12 12 19 16 15 22 10 16 21
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18342-1-1.html
Q,surname Liu,homeland Hebei
14 14 16 25 9 14 14 14 12 11 20 17 18 22 10 15 22
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18332-1-1.html
R1-M306+,surname Xin,homeland Hebei
 DYS19 DYS389AB DYS389CD DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS385a DYS385b Y GATA H4 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458 DYS 635
15 13 18 24 11 11 14 14 11 10 11 15 12 20 15 15 23

[asan-kaygy]

Мне интересно, когда Китай будет исследован по 67 маркерам и субкладам также как Европа?
По численности Китай больше и субкладов разных гаплогрупп там может быть немало

[Yurgan]

Мне интересно, когда Китай будет исследован по 67 маркерам и субкладам также как Европа?
По численности Китай больше и субкладов разных гаплогрупп там может быть немало

Неизвестных субкладов N там огромное количество.
И есть также P Q R и прочие.

[Asmat headhunter]

Вот бы миллионную выборку по Китаю увидеть...

[asan-kaygy]

Мне кажется и 1 тысячи с 67 маркерами и дипкладом (для 50 как минимум нужен будет WTY) хватит для оценки распределения гаплогрупп среди китайцев

[sahaliyan]

Adde two samples
http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18372-1-1.html
The first one came from Heilongjiang,his ancestral homeland is Shanxi,in Ming dynasty,his ancestors moved to Hebei.Then in mid Qing dynasty,his ancestors moved into Manchuria.
N M231,looks like N1a or N1b,surname Ren

http://www.ranhaer.com/thread-18381-1-1.html
The second one is M306+,based on his Y-STR,he is undoubtly R1a1a.His surname is Cao.It's worth noting that the Wuqingtang Cao clan also tested as R1a1a.And the Wuqingtang family claimed shared same male ancestor with the great Qing dynasty writer Cao Xueqin,best known as the author of Dream of the Red Chamber, one of the Four Great Classical Novels of Chinese literature.Cao Xueqin's ancestors(and the ancestors of Wuqingtang family) served in Ming dynasty as small military officers,in 1610,they became slaves(booi aha,but different with the slaves in western sence,because they can served in banner army and became high officials) of Manchu plain white banner.
DYS19 DYS389I DYS389b DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS437 DYS438 DYS439 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458 DYS635 H4 DYS385a DYS385b
16 13 18 25 10 11 13 14 11 10 19 15 15 23 11 11 14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_Xueqin