Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae

[Srkz]

То что русские без дальнейших указаний это ошибка Гедматча, а по к-23 у вас всё-таки слишком большая дистанция от NW, я просто подметил, что у вас по K16 многовато siberian и ameridian для СЗ, скорее на СВ походит.

Ну почему, по Spreadsheet там Siberian+Arctic+Amerindian у пяти русских выборок в диапазоне 3-4, у двух около 8 (думаю, это HGDP И Унжа) и у двух около 11 (думаю, Пинега и Архангельск). 4.87 Николы вполне можно проинтерпретировать как СЗ с некоторым сдвигом к СВ.

[Roaring]

То что русские без дальнейших указаний это ошибка Гедматча, а по к-23 у вас всё-таки слишком большая дистанция от NW, я просто подметил, что у вас по K16 многовато siberian и ameridian для СЗ, скорее на СВ походит.

Ну почему, по Spreadsheet там Siberian+Arctic+Amerindian у пяти русских выборок в диапазоне 3-4, у двух около 8 (думаю, это HGDP И Унжа) и у двух около 11 (думаю, Пинега и Архангельск). 4.87 Николы вполне можно проинтерпретировать как СЗ с некоторым сдвигом к СВ.

Ну да, пожалуй так будет правильно.

[Stanislav S]

 Мои результаты

К-16

1   NorthEastEuropean   31.14
2   Neolithic   21.56
3   Steppe   20.25
4   Caucasian   20.24
5   Siberian   4.45
6   Arctic   1.16
7   Oceanic   0.64
8   Indian   0.57

#   Population (source)   Distance
1   Cossack   3.44
2   Russian   3.63
3   Ukrainian   3.9
4   Pole   4.06
5   Pole   4.06
6   Russian   4.11
7   Russian_cossack   4.16
8   Russian   4.18
9   Belarusian   4.18
10   Pole   4.27

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian + Ingrians + Ingrians + Ingrians @ 1.422325
2 Belarusian + Bulgarian + Finn + Finn @ 1.576504
3 Belarusian + Ingrians + Russian + Serbian @ 1.593045
4 Finn + Ingrians + Macedonian + Russians-West @ 1.601968
5 Croat + Ingrians + Pole + Russian @ 1.606084
6 Belarusian + Bulgarian + Finn + Ingrians @ 1.609098
7 Belarusian + Ingrians + Russian + Serbian @ 1.609100
8 Croat + Ingrians + Pole + Russian @ 1.615098
9 Bulgarian + Finn + Ingrians + Ingrians @ 1.632355
10 Croat + Ingrians + Pole + Russian @ 1.634187
11 Bosnian + Ingrians + Pole + Russian @ 1.639148
12 Finn + Ingrians + Pole + Serbian @ 1.649585
13 Bosnian + Ingrians + Pole + Russian @ 1.650335
14 Ingrians + Pole + Russian + Serbian @ 1.652465
15 Cossack + German_Lipsian + Pole + Russian @ 1.657136
16 Finn + Ingrians + Pole + Serbian @ 1.657407
17 Croat + Ingrians + Pole + Russian @ 1.658733
18 Ingrians + Pole + Russian + Serbian @ 1.660362
19 Belarusian + Bulgarian + Finn + Finn @ 1.663381
20 Croat + Dutch + Finn + Russian @ 1.667329

К-11

1   WHG   41.13
2   EHG   24.15
3   Neolithic   23.74
4   Siberian   3.95
5   Basal   2.49
6   Iran-Mesolithic   2.34
7   SEA   1.5
8   ASI   0.52
9   Oceanic   0.17
10   African   0.01

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Unetice_EBA @ 6.068888
2 Nordic_LN @ 6.421354
3 Nordic_IA @ 6.840680
4 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 7.148120
5 Nordic_LBA @ 7.509961
6 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 7.992920
7 Unetice_MBA @ 8.056116
8 Nordic_MN_B @ 8.094366
9 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 8.300883
10 British_AngloSaxon @ 8.691842

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Alberstedt_LN + Hungary_IronAge + Hungary_IronAge + Scandinavian_NH @ 2.456706
2 Corded_Ware_Germany + Halberstadt_LBA + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 2.480119
3 Alberstedt_LN + Corded_Ware_Germany + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 2.624700
4 Bell_Beaker_Germany + Corded_Ware_Germany + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 2.625462
5 Bell_Beaker_Germany + Hungary_IronAge + Hungary_IronAge + Scandinavian_NH @ 2.630105
6 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Swedish_LN @ 2.630401
7 British_Celtic + Hungary_IronAge + Hungary_IronAge + Scandinavian_NH @ 2.663092
8 Bell_Beaker + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Swedish_LN @ 2.704055
9 Bell_Beaker_Czech + Corded_Ware_Germany + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 2.718714
10 Hungary_BA + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Unetice_EBA @ 2.739905

Вот интересно, в оракле выдает и казака, и русского, и украинца, и поляка. А как раскладывает на предполагаемые компоненты, то финны-инкери упорно выскакивают

Силен таки северный мезолитический компонент у восточных европейцев. Как там, в "Играх Престолов", - "потомки Первых людей"?

[Nicola_Canadian]

Прогнал по K16 шнуровика  - посчитали шотландцем... хммм

Kit Num: M191719
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
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MDLP K16 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

#   Population   Percent
1   Steppe   40.80
2   NorthEastEuropean   23.89
3   Neolithic   20.80
4   Caucasian   14.50


Finished reading population data. 516 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Scottish @ 16.262144
2 Orcadian @ 17.198835
3 Icelandic @ 18.242184
4 Irish @ 18.658689
5 Norwegian @ 18.659899
6 English @ 18.822124
7 Irish @ 19.108130
8 Irish @ 19.158779
9 Irish @ 19.516880
10 Scottish @ 19.753548
11 Irish @ 19.767603
12 Shetlandic @ 19.784561
13 English @ 19.929352
14 English @ 19.937046
15 Scottish @ 19.979746
16 Scottish @ 20.326353
17 Scottish @ 20.488184
18 Swede @ 20.764265
19 Dutch @ 20.834240
20 Hungarian @ 20.870863

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish +50% Scottish @ 16.262144


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish +25% Scottish +25% Scottish @ 16.262144


Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.262144
2 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.489405
3 Icelandic + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.702063
4 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.719429
5 Irish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.799509
6 Norwegian + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.822262
7 English + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.866735
8 Irish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.907175
9 Finn + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.930885
10 Icelandic + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.940651
11 Irish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 16.941540
12 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 16.958447
13 Irish + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 17.020243
14 Irish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 17.039207
15 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + Tubalar @ 17.043556
16 Norwegian + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 17.052959
17 Irish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 17.069927
18 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 17.081678
19 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + Tubalar @ 17.091278
20 English + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 17.091640

Done.

Elapsed time 407.7390 seconds.

[Srkz]

Прогнал по K16 шнуровика  - посчитали шотландцем... хммм

Отображение более высокой доли "степного ямного" компонента у северо-западных европейцев.

[VictorV.]

Мой K-16:

MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

#   Population   Percent
1    NorthEastEuropean    31.81
2    Neolithic    22.03
3    Steppe    21.85
4    Caucasian    18.95
5    Siberian    2.12

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Belarusian @ 2.092933
2 Pole @ 3.653141
3 Cossack @ 3.733628
4 Russian @ 3.796792
5 Belarusian @ 3.834165
6 Ukrainians_north @ 4.055031
7 Pole @ 4.156720
8 Ukrainian @ 4.291844
9 Pole @ 4.321812
10 Belarusian @ 4.468906
11 Ukrainians_east @ 4.484164
12 Pole @ 4.584069
13 Russian_cossack @ 4.589899
14 Swede @ 4.619523
15 Sorb @ 4.689898
16 Russian @ 4.791892
17 Russian @ 4.844637
18 Russian @ 4.918854
19 Finn @ 4.939981
20 Belarusian_East @ 5.315007

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Russians-West @ 1.480845


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian +25% Cossack +25% Scottish @ 1.163436


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Belarusian + Ingrians + Irish + Pole @ 0.990402
2 Cossack + Pole + Scottish + Ukrainians_east @ 1.019879
3 Belarusian + Pole + Russian + Scottish @ 1.032628
4 Cossack + Pole + Pole + Scottish @ 1.035584
5 Cossack + Orcadian + Pole + Pole @ 1.041140
6 Erzya_Moksha + German_Lipsian + Lithuanian + Scottish @ 1.053133
7 Belarusian + Cossack + Pole + Scottish @ 1.054483
8 Belarusian + Cossack + Orcadian + Pole @ 1.061636
9 Belarusian + Erzya_Moksha + Orcadian + Pole @ 1.069515
10 Belarusian + Ingrians + Irish + Pole @ 1.071497
11 Ingrians + Irish + Pole + Russians-West @ 1.077565
12 Ingrians + Irish + Pole + Pole @ 1.080777
13 Belarusian + Erzya_Moksha + Pole + Scottish @ 1.092767
14 Belarusian + Pole + Russian + Scottish @ 1.094451
15 Belarusian + Erzya_Moksha + Icelandic + Pole @ 1.101079
16 Belarusian + German_Lipsian + Russian + Scottish @ 1.104203
17 Ingrians + Irish + Pole + Pole @ 1.107007
18 Belarusian + Pole + Russian + Scottish @ 1.117476
19 Belarusian + Dutch + Russian + Scottish @ 1.122079
20 Belarusian + Ingrians + Irish + Pole @ 1.123312

[FenriR]

Прогнал по K16 шнуровика  - посчитали шотландцем... хммм

Отображение более высокой доли "степного ямного" компонента у северо-западных европейцев.

да,
основное отличие северо-восточных европейцев от северо-западных - это увеличение доли WHG-EHG (+ минорная сибирская примесь: обычно, <2-3% для индивидов без недавнего адмикса), которая снижает неолитический и, в какой-то мере, степной компоненты.

[Панк]

Удивил результат подопечного, наиболее "классический" житель малой Полтавщины
Бабушки и дедушки из одного региона (фамилии Злобинец-Трирог-Слипец-Чапля)
Особенно даны и англичане Кента  )))

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MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):
#   Population   Percent
1   European_Hunters_Gatherers   48.81
2   Caucasian   25.76
3   European_Early_Farmers   14.18
4   Ancestral_Altaic   3.79
5   South_Central_Asian   2.24
6   South_Indian   2.01
7   Paleo_Siberian   1.18

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 3.904412
2 Slovak @ 4.457840
3 Kashub @ 4.952096
4 Ukrainian_West @ 5.765809
5 Czech @ 6.328672
6 Sorb @ 6.516027
7 Finn_West @ 7.018444
8 Russian_North @ 7.672873
9 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 7.693128
10 Russian-West @ 8.035990
11 Slovenian @ 8.141310
12 Belarusian_West @ 8.239972
13 Hungarian @ 8.246970
14 Belarusian-East @ 8.310680
15 Ukrainian_Center @ 8.390205
16 Russian-North-West @ 8.448039
17 Russian-Upper-Volga @ 8.660919
18 Russian_South @ 8.762780
19 Hungarian_Budapest @ 8.978913
20 Ukrainian_East @ 9.143727

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Dane +50% Ukrainian @ 2.853262


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian-East +25% English_Kent_GBR +25% Russian-North-West @ 2.281070


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belarusian-East + Belarusian-East + English_Kent_GBR + Russian-North-West @ 2.281070
2 Estonian + Latvian + Norwegian_West + Romanian @ 2.293160
3 Czech + Russian-West + Russian-West + Swede @ 2.297562
4 English_Kent_GBR + Russian-North-West + Russian-West + Ukrainian_Center @ 2.306897
5 Belarusian-East + Czech + Russian-West + Swede @ 2.308397
6 Belarusian-East + English_Kent_GBR + Russian-North-West + Russian_South @ 2.311638
7 Belgian + Kashub + Russian-West + Russian-West @ 2.314804
8 Belarusian-East + Belgian + Kashub + Russian-North-West @ 2.316305
9 Belgian + Kashub + Russian-West + Russian_South @ 2.318483
10 Belarusian-East + English_Kent_GBR + Russian-North-West + Russian-West @ 2.323341
11 Belarusian-East + English_Kent_GBR + Russian-West + Russian-West @ 2.324421
12 Belarusian-East + Belarusian-East + English_Kent_GBR + Russian-West @ 2.330726
13 Belarusian-East + Belgian + Kashub + Russian-West @ 2.331312
14 Estonian + Estonian + Norwegian_West + Romanian @ 2.336164
15 Belgian + Kashub + Russian-North-West + Russian_South @ 2.337051
16 Belarusian-East + Czech + Russian-North-West + Swede @ 2.337869
17 Belgian + Kashub + Russian-North-West + Russian-West @ 2.343428
18 Belarusian-East + English_Kent_GBR + Russian-West + Russian_South @ 2.346871
19 Belarusian-East + Belarusian-East + Norwegian_West + Slovak @ 2.347899
20 Belarusian-East + Belarusian_West + English_Kent_GBR + Russian-North-West @ 2.349566

[aldosha]

что-то у MDLP K23b много вариаций. остановился на Russian-West
мой результат
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian_West @ 3.253515
2 Slovak @ 4.559371
3 Kashub @ 5.150042
4 Russian_North @ 5.611974
5 Ukrainian_Center @ 5.727568
6 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 5.777367
7 Belarusian_West @ 5.809641
8 Sorb @ 6.056241
9 Belarusian-East @ 6.095095
10 Russian_South @ 6.269504
11 Ukrainian_East @ 6.368952
12 Russian-West @ 6.379386
13 Czech @ 6.930264
14 German @ 7.124714
15 Moksha @ 7.446763
16 Don_cossack @ 7.550059
17 Russian-Upper-Volga @ 7.583836
18 Russian-North-West @ 7.758597
19 Ukrainian @ 7.975706
20 Erzya @ 8.712130

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mordovian +50% Slovenian @ 2.718320

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Don_cossack +25% Don_cossack +25% German-Volga @ 2.317864

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Kashub + Mixed_East_Slav + Moksha + Serb_Serbia @ 2.213014
2 Belarusian_Russian + Kashub + Moksha + Serb_Serbia @ 2.214808
3 Don_cossack + Hungarian_Budapest + Kashub + Moksha @ 2.234514
4 Bosnian + Don_cossack + Kashub + Moksha @ 2.263453

[Stanislav S]

Мой сын T615104, мама из Одессы, украинцы, молдаване (или гагаузы), армяне, поляки.

1 Ukrainian_West @ 3.880059
2 Slovak @ 3.998018
3 Czech @ 4.935166
4 Croat_BH @ 6.138194
5 Hungarian_Budapest @ 6.494109
6 Slovenian @ 6.947027
7 Hungarian @ 6.979096
8 German @ 7.582747
9 Bosnian @ 7.800334
10 Kashub @ 8.034261
1 Finnish_FIN + Lithuanian + Macedonian + Macedonian @ 1.818725
2 Balt + Croat + Macedonian + Russian-Upper-Volga @ 1.831697
3 Belarusian_West + Croat + Montenegrian + Russian_Vologda @ 1.852763
4 Macedonian + Russian_Vologda + Slovenian + Ukrainian_Center @ 1.858514
5 Lithuanian + Macedonian + Russian-Upper-Volga + Serb_Serbia @ 1.866008

Я, F297394, предки - русские Казани (до этого Самары, до этого Черниговщины), русские горожане Перми, донцы (Донецкий район ОВВД), поляки Минской области.

1 Russian_North @ 4.369812
2 Ukrainian_West @ 4.735921
3 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 5.252895
4 Russian-West @ 5.357456
5 Belarusian-East @ 5.581076
6 Kashub @ 5.583440
7 Russian-Upper-Volga @ 5.622303
8 Ukrainian_Center @ 5.755537
9 Russian_South @ 5.991616
10 Sorb @ 6.018469

1 Croat + Kashub + Russian-North + Russian-Upper-Volga @ 2.386152
2 Finnish-East + Pole + Russian_North + Serb_Serbia @ 2.395297
3 Croat + Finnish-East + Russian_North + Ukrainian_East @ 2.416867
4 Kashub + Russian-North + Russian-Upper-Volga + Serb_BH @ 2.438990
5 Finnish-East + Pole + Russian-Upper-Volga + Serb_Serbia @ 2.451968


Мой отец, F371483, предки - русские Казани (до этого Самары, до этого Черниговщины), русские горожане Перми:

1 Moksha @ 4.759285
2 Erzya @ 5.273737
3 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 5.651610
4 Russian_North @ 5.752035
5 Russian-Upper-Volga @ 5.892455
6 Russian-West @ 7.440149
7 Russian-Ural @ 7.586889
8 Ukrainian_West @ 7.677817
9 Mordovian @ 7.832917
10 Belarusian-East @ 8.121424

1 Chuvash + Don_cossack + Don_cossack + Slovenian @ 2.475564
2 Chuvashs + Kashub + Russian_North + Ukrainian_East @ 2.478542
3 Chuvash + Don_cossack + Don_cossack + Hungarian @ 2.489809
4 Belarusian_South + Chuvash + Croat_BH + Russian_North @ 2.498118
5 Don_cossack + Mari + Pole + Slovenian @ 2.516279

Все изменения в двух поколениях произошли в Перми.

[SSlava]

Я, F297394, предки - русские Казани (до этого Самары, до этого Черниговщины), русские горожане Перми, донцы (Донецкий район ОВВД), поляки Минской области.

Ага, ну все правильно, поэтому в K36 относительно не мало у вас западных компонентов с одной стороны, и не мало Сибири относительно в калькуляторах с другой))?

Хм, ну я не помню, выкладывал ли результаты, по 4 предкам что-то такое получается 23b:


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sorb @ 3.239735
2 Ukrainian_Center @ 4.093634
3 Belarusian-East @ 4.150997
4 Ukrainian_East @ 4.228180
5 Kashub @ 4.362849
6 Russian-West @ 4.366116

Код: [Выделить]

1 Finnish_FIN + Pole + Pole + Slovenian @ 2.397303
2 Finnish_FIN + Hungarian + Pole + Pole @ 2.419118
3 Croat + Estonian + Estonian + Slovak @ 2.493596
4 Croat_BH + Finnish_FIN + Lithuanian + Sorb @ 2.494783
5 Croat + Finnish_FIN + Lithuanian + Sorb @ 2.499320
6 Croat_BH + Finnish_FIN + Kashub + Lithuanian @ 2.500484

[SSlava]

  Кстати а что значит компонент Архаик Хьюман? Что-то как просматривал результаты, не часто он проскакивает, у меня его аж 0,52 процента. Хотя. скорее всего все что менее процента, это шумы. Так же и Австралоиды там)) 0,57 процента.

[Stanislav S]

Кстати а что значит компонент Архаик Хьюман? Что-то как просматривал результаты, не часто он проскакивает, у меня его аж 0,52 процента. Хотя. скорее всего все что менее процента, это шумы. Так же и Австралоиды там)) 0,57 процента.

Шумы. Наследие Первых Людей.

[andronn]

Объясните мне, может быть так, что когда предки с совершенно разных регионов, то калькулятор К-27 более подходит чем К36, для сравнения всегда беру результаты матери, часть ее предков, с карпатского региона, Галичина и т.д. часть с сев., центр.России, и др. регионов России. вот что показывает К-27:
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_South_West_R7 @ 3,229864
2 Russian_Center @ 4,149937
3 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 @ 4,67906
4 Ukrainian_R2 @ 4,756166
5 Polish_S13 @ 4,926576
6 Belarusian_SW_R2 @ 5,070407
7 Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 5,207145
8 Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 5,247373
9 Russian_South_R3 @ 5,945394
10 Belarusian_SE_R3 @ 6,502661
11 Russian_Smolensk_R2 @ 6,631814
12 Russian_Novgorod_D @ 6,943943
13 Moksha_R3 @ 6,979108
14 Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 @ 7,079091
15 Erzya_R4 @ 7,232453
16 Belarusian_N_SR6 @ 7,602372
17 Russian_Pskov_R4 @ 8,800902
18 Slovak_D @ 9,295249
19 Russian_North_R8 @ 9,597815
20 Russian_Vyatka_R4 @ 9,853243
21 Russian_Perm_R6 @ 12,004449
22 Russian_Ladoga_D @ 12,668613
23 Balt_R3 @ 12,73522
24 Carpathian_R1 @ 13,981643
25 Moldavian_S3 @ 15,0548
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,682427
2 Russian_Center+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,712038
3 Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,983819
4 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,05214
5 Moksha_R3+Polish_S13 @ 3,134861
6 Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,1688
7 Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 3,200856
8 Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 3,229864
9 Russian_Novgorod_D+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 3,241318
10 Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,279149
11 Russian_Smolensk_R2+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 3,289254
12 Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,32947
13 Russian_Pskov_R4+Slovak_D @ 3,36935
14 Belarusian_SE_R3+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 3,423049
15 Polish_S13+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 @ 3,423942
16 Belarusian_SW_R2+Moksha_R3 @ 3,48323
17 Russian_Novgorod_D+Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,536401
18 Balt_R3+Moldavian_S3 @ 3,563774
19 Russian_Center+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 3,596498
20 Polish_S13+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 3,597852
21 Russian_Pskov_R4+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 3,613745
22 Erzya_R4+Polish_S13 @ 3,641458
23 Polish_S13+Russian_Center @ 3,692535
24 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 3,724804
25 Russian_Smolensk_R2+Slovak_D @ 3,735312
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian_SW_R2 +25% Russian_North_R8 +25% Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,595737
2 50% Ukrainian_West_R2 +25% Belarusian_SW_R2 +25% Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 @ 2,627248
3 50% Russian_South_West_R7 +25% Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 +25% Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,647444
4 50% Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 +25% Polish_S13 +25% Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,648209
5 50% Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 +25% Polish_S13 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,653937
6 50% Belarusian_SW_R2 +25% Russian_Perm_R6 +25% Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,654301
7 50% Ukrainian_West_R2 +25% Russian_Center +25% Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 @ 2,656588
8 50% Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 +25% Belarusian_SW_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,659812
9 50% Belarusian_SE_R3 +25% German_R3 +25% Russian_Pskov_R4 @ 2,661981
10 50% Russian_South_West_R7 +25% Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,664467
11 50% Belarusian_N_SR6 +25% German_R3 +25% Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 @ 2,667715
12 50% Russian_Center +25% Russian_South_West_R7 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,672234
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Balt_R3+Belarusian_N_SR6+German_R3+Moksha_R3 @ 2,391752
2 Balt_R3+Moksha_R3+Slovak_D+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,44389
3 Balt_R3+Belarusian_N_SR6+Erzya_R4+German_R3 @ 2,49708
4 Balt_R3+Belarusian_SE_R3+German_R3+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 @ 2,501177
5 Balt_R3+Belarusian_SE_R3+German_R3+Moksha_R3 @ 2,513418
6 Balt_R3+German_R3+Moksha_R3+Russian_Pskov_R4 @ 2,527158
7 Belarusian_SW_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,560878
8 Belarusian_SW_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,564683
9 Balt_R3+Belarusian_SE_R3+Erzya_R4+German_R3 @ 2,579308
10 Balt_R3+Belarusian_N_SR6+German_R3+Russian_Vyatka_R4 @ 2,582821
11 Balt_R3+Belarusian_N_SR6+German_R3+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 @ 2,583905
12 Belarusian_SW_R2+Russian_Center+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,588349
13 Belarusian_SW_R2+Belarusian_SW_R2+Russian_North_R8+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,595737
14 Balt_R3+German_R3+Moksha_R3+Russian_Smolensk_R2 @ 2,597809
15 Polish_S13+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,603058
16 Belarusian_SW_R2+Polish_S13+Russian_North_R8+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,621976
17 Belarusian_SW_R2+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Ukrainian_West_R2+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,627248
18 Polish_S13+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,629039
19 Balt_R3+German_R3+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_Smolensk_R2 @ 2,630037
20 Balt_R3+Belarusian_SE_R3+German_R3+Russian_Center @ 2,637208
21 Belarusian_SW_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,637538
22 Moksha_R3+Polish_S13+Russian_Pskov_R4+Slovak_D @ 2,64195
23 Moksha_R3+Polish_S13+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,644892
24 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_West_R2 @ 2,647444
25 Russian_Center+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_West_R7+Slovak_D @ 2,647554

и К-36:

1 Ukrainian_Central @ 6,386996
2 PL_average @ 6,826525
3 PL_South_Poland @ 6,894099
4 PL_SE_Carpathia @ 6,9766
5 PL_Upper_Silesia @ 7,330936
6 PL_Wielkopolska @ 7,519243
7 Russian_Oryol @ 7,619513
8 Sorb_Lusatia @ 7,729689
9 Russian_Don_Cossack @ 7,841231
10 Ukrainian_North_East @ 7,889941


1 Ukrainian_Central+Sorb_Lusatia @ 5,478605
2 Sorb_Lusatia+Ukrainian_North_East @ 5,516137
3 Hungary+PL_Sudovia @ 5,593644
4 Ukrainian_Central+Pl_north @ 5,61215
5 Russian_Oryol+Sorb_Lusatia @ 5,620338
6 Ukrainian_Central+PL_SE_Carpathia @ 5,78639
7 Ukrainian_Central+PL_Wielkopolska @ 5,804113
8 Russian_Tambov+Sorb_Lusatia @ 5,891604
9 Czechs_Moravians+PL_Sudovia @ 5,896126

1 50% Carpathian_Rusyns +25% PL_Sudovia +25% Moksha @ 5,27117
2 50% Ukrainian_Central +25% Hungary +25% PL_Sudovia @ 5,314068
3 50% Ukrainian_Central +25% PL_SE_Carpathia +25% Pl_north @ 5,326844
4 50% Ukrainian_Central +25% Czechs_Moravians +25% PL_Sudovia @ 5,32864
5 50% PL_Sudovia +25% Serbian +25% Moksha @ 5,336196
6 50% PL_Sudovia +25% Bosnian +25% Moksha @ 5,336455
7 50% PL_Sudovia +25% Moksha +25% Montenegro @ 5,340042
8 50% PL_Sudovia +25% IT_Friuli +25% Moksha @ 5,342658
9 50% Ukrainian_Central +25% Pl_north +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 5,364984
10 50% Sorb_Lusatia +25% Russian_Tambov +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 5,37254

1 Slovenian+PL_Sudovia+Moksha+Sorb_Lusatia @ 4,933467
2 Croatian+PL_Sudovia+Pl_north+Moksha @ 4,985136
3 NE_Romania+Russian_Oryol+PL_Sudovia+Pl_north @ 4,986323
4 NE_Romania+Russian_Kursk+PL_Sudovia+Pl_north @ 5,001923
5 Croatian+PL_Sudovia+Moksha+Sorb_Lusatia @ 5,032609
6 Slovenian+PL_Sudovia+PL_Wielkopolska+Moksha @ 5,039066
7 Carpathian_Rusyns+PL_Sudovia+Moksha+Sorb_Lusatia @ 5,041135
8 Croatian+Russian_Tambov+PL_Sudovia+Pl_north @ 5,050876
9 NE_Romania+PL_Sudovia+Pl_north+Ukrainian_North_East @ 5,058537
10 Moldavian+Ukrainian_Central+PL_Sudovia+Pl_north @ 5,066599
тут лишь, Украина и Карпаты да Балканы.

[Stanislav S]

Balt_R3+Belarusian_N_SR6+German_R3+Moksha_R3 @ 2,391752

  Slovenian+PL_Sudovia+Moksha+Sorb_Lusatia @ 4,933467

По сути оба калькулятора говорят об одном и том же: 25% мокша (т.е. финнизированные восточные балты), 25% балты (Balt_R3 и PL_Sudovia), 25% восточных германцев, тех же славян (German_R3 и Sorb_Lusatia) и 25% славян (Belarusian_N_SR6 и Slovenian)