Dodecad Ancestry Project

[mouglley]

Stalo lieg?e, uva?. mouglley?
Bylo by lu??e, iesli vsio eto izlo?yli im tam na ichniem.

И легче стало.
И именно это я им и сказал там сегодня утром.
http://dna-forums.com/index.php?/topic/13461-finnishlithuanian-debate/page__view__findpost__p__221514

Результаты погляжу завтра. А то на ночь борцовское настроение не очень хорошо иметь.

[mouglley]

Восточно евразийские примеси:
North Caucasoid   82,9
South Caucasoid   12
Central Siberian   4,5
East Siberian   0,5
East Asian   0,1
Nganasan   0
Altaic   0

[mouglley]

Общие данные по 10-ти компонентам:
North European   70,4
South European   16,1
West Asian   9,6
Southwest Asian   2
East Asian   1,7
Northeast Asian   0,1
Northwest African   0
West African   0
East African   0
South Asian   0

[warwick]

Have you seen this 2008 Russian y dna paper?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/R4aBpZcxH4I/AAAAAAAAAEw/rCvdWN1dOhU/s1600-h/russians.jpg

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2008/01/russian-y-chromosomes.html

Speaks to the Finnish issue, I think.

also see distinct finnish blue: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TNLyVNbffHI/AAAAAAAAC0E/vsEQYTTobHQ/s1600/Ystrclusters.png
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/11/clustering-of-european-y-strs.html

[mouglley]

Thank you.

All this tell us only about multiregional origins of Russian population.

[Аббат Бузони]

Вчера отправил данные. А он на мыло сообщает об обновлении, как Поляко? 

[warwick]

I think the Finns deny their Asian origins/components because of politcal criticisms of Swedes and Norwegians, historically and bias in us:

"Finnish immigrants often felt the sting of discrimination on a level greater than their European-immigrant neighbors. Many mine managers found the Finns to be resistant to integration and slow to learn English. Local society in general harbored suspicions about the Finns, the politics of some and their unfamiliar customs. A settler from 1887 stated, “the old settlers looked down upon them with the same sort of aversion as the west coast people do on the heathen Chinee (Finn 16).” But ethnic discrimination did not end with such statements of ignorant fear."
http://ethnicity.lib.mtu.edu/groups_Finns.html

Thus they deny dna evidence that reminds them of those stories, even though circumstances are different,.

[mouglley]

I fully agree with you.

All this is not a scientific question, but a political one only.

[Аббат Бузони]

DOD191 - Мочалов
DOD192 - Сергачев
DOD193 - Отец

[Аббат Бузони]

DOD191 - Мочалов

Общие данные по 10-ти компонентам:

North European   71,6
West Asian   12,9
Northeast Asian   8,2
South European   7,3
Southwest Asian   0
East Asian   0
Northwest African   0
West African   0
East African   0
South Asian   0

DOD192 - Сергачев

Общие данные по 10-ти компонентам:

North European   74,4
West Asian   12,4
Northeast Asian   9,7
South European  2,4
East Asian   1,1
Southwest Asian   0
Northwest African   0
West African   0
East African   0
South Asian   0

DOD193 - Отец

Общие данные по 10-ти компонентам:

North European   75,7
West Asian   15,8
South European   4,6
Northeast Asian   2
East Asian   1,1
South Asian   0,7
Southwest Asian  0
East African   0
Northwest African   0
West African   0

[mouglley]

Можно потом по всем, кто пожелает из наших нашу диаграмму составить.

[Аббат Бузони]

Ага, можно сделать, а потом наращивать.

[Maxim0605]

DOD186 я
North European   70,4
West Asian   10,3
Northeast Asian   6,2
South European  11,6
East Asian   0,9
Southwest Asian   0
Northwest African   0
West African   0
East African   0
South Asian   0,7

[Valery]

Похоже разговор с финнами на dna-forums превращается в говнотреп

[Аббат Бузони]

Дайте ссылку что ли.