Со мною связался поляк, и вот что удалось узнать:
A-Y254622 on Yfull is the same as A-V2311 on FamilyTreeDNA. On Yfull there is my ancestral line of Puławski family from Gorzków, Lubelskie, Poland and now yours from Kyiv Oblast.
You created a new branch under A-Y254622, as there was another kit from Nebula a year ago, but it was not paid for so it was hidden and is not used to calculate TMRCA of A-Y254622. His ID was YF127166 and his mtDNA haplogroup is still present on Yfull – it is U4a2b4. Under U4a2b there is a lot of Poles, some from Ukraine, Russia, but also non-East Europeans. His closest mtDNA match also disappeared but was under Y haplogroup R-FT230066 which has only Russians. So I think we can assume your closest match under A-FTB51954 is also from East Europe.
On FTDNA there are two men under A-Y254622/V2311 with Big-Y: one anonymous, and Titov with ancestors from Tula Oblast in Russia. I'm not sure why he gives Belarus as his patrilineal ancestors origin place, as my relative Puławski has him as an autosomal match and his paternal line goes down to XVII century in Tula. He has maternal ancestors from Belarus. Autosomal match is clearly from Ashkenazi Jews as this segment is shared and triangulated with thousands of people, many with such ancestry.
Titov and the anonymous are only matches at A-Y254622/V2311 (so the same as Puławski and you) and so have a common ancestor around 300-500 AD. I think one of them could be under A-FTB51954, and the second one create a branch with my Puławski. Titov has FGC33026 SNP positive, which is a novel SNP for Puławski on Yfull, and you seem to have it negative, so he may possibly be closer to Puławski. But this is a homologous mutation (Yfull shows it appears in 8 haplogroups) so it may be just a coincidence.
On FTDNA haplogroup A group there is also Filichkin from the UK, whose ancestors are from Tambov in Russia, who tested 37 STRs, and is a match on 35 to Puławski and 34 to Titov. He also should be under A-Y254622/V2311.
There are two men tested on 23andMe with A-M118 haplogroup (the same as A-M13 which is 8 branches above A-Y254622) who I think also should be under our branch: Suckiel with ancestors, I think, from Eišiškės, near Vilnius, and Sigalow with Jewish ancestors from East Europe.
Probably just a coincidence, but there is a lot of Babkin surname in Eišiškės:
https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&search_lastname=Babkin&search_lastname2=&from_date=&to_date=&exac=1&rid=S&bdm=S&w=23lt&rpp1=&ordertable=In a scientific paper (Gene Pool Structure of Russian Populations from the European Part of Russia Inferred from the Data on Y Chromosome Haplogroups Distribution), there is a sample from Kaluga, Russia, that has 12/12 STR match with Puławski, probably also under A-Y254622.
There are also 3 scientific samples that should be the closest matches to my Puławski:
1. 11/12 STR match from Bydgoszcz, Poland (Similarities and distinctions in Y chromosome gene pool of Western Slavs)
2. 11/12 STR match from Wrocław, Poland (cited in «Арапский» след в мужском генофонде русских и поляков; Борис Малярчук; 2009 - I don't know where from originally)
3. 21/23 STR match from Wrocław, Poland (A global analysis of Y-chromosomal haplotype diversity for 23 STR loci)
In the scientific paper Trans-Saharan Connections High-Resolution Analysis Of Human Y Chromosome Diversity, there are several samples positive for SNPs under A-V6275. 7 from Sardinia, that are on FTDNA under A-BY158965 - so we share first ancestor with them only 5600 years ago. The same with a sample from Egypt (though it is not on FTDNA, as only several SNPs were tested). But there are two sample from Lesbos (Greece) and Yemen that are negative for V2406 and positive for V6275. V2406 is just below the BY158965 branch, so they may be from there still, or from our branch, or from yet undiscovered. I think Yemen may be from BY158965, and Greece could be from ours. Greek one is not from the same migration as Sardinian V6275, as the first ancestor s only 5600 years ago, and so possibly it could be on the migration route from Northeast Africa to our part of Europe. Maybe via Greek colonies on the north shore of the Black Sea?
On 23andMe there is also a Greek (Kolivas) from Northern Aegean region of Greece that has haplogroup A-M118 (same as our A-M13). He probably is from A-V6275.
There are also two A-M13 Turkish samples from Turkish Aegean region (Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia, Underhill), but have only 9 STRs tested, and have 6 and 3 positives with Puławski, so it is not possible to say if they could be from A-V6275.
On FTDNA there is also a Portuguese man Pinto with 12 STRs tested, and matches 9 of them with Puławski and 9 with one of the Turkish men mentioned above. The same is the case with two men from Mexico both called Gonzalez. They all have 10 repeats in DYS391 and 13 repeats in DYS389I, which differs from characteristic 9 and 14 repeats from all 7 known STR samples from Poland and Russia under A-V6275. They are similarly close to FTDNA samples below A-BY158965, which means they can be from any of these two or neither of them.
So it is hard to say if Aegean Turkish and Greek men are a descendants of a different migration with a common ancestor with us also 5600 years ago, or if it is possible that our ancestors were common for much longer and lived in Aegean region, and only later started migrating north (and west to Iberia). But still, our ancestors getting to our part of Europe via Greek colonies on the north shore of the Black Sea is my current theory, but we need to wait until some Greek/Turkish men under A-V6275 test for FTDNA or appear on Yfull.
As for my ancestors with haplogroup A, they are from a small town Gorzków in Lubelskie, Poland. The first of them apeared there around 1799 when he marries there as a 47-year-old widower and a beer maker. To this day, he had over 1300 descendants, of which over 300 were his patrilineal descendants. Where did he come from is uknown, the surname appears in many places in Poland.
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