дДНК из Ивановской и Владимирской областей (железный век, средневековье и др)

[G-Man]

Субклады тюркских образцов:


SHK001   

https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-PH1795/


SHK002

https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-VL77/

[vvw1717]

SHK001
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-PH1795/

SHK002
https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-VL77/

Хорасанские торговцы специями) спекулянт и его слуга селькуп самоед.  Неправильную  князю пошлину заплатили, потому товар у них забрали и на погосте их закопали.

Насколько я понимаю хунну и есть как бы одни из потомков прототюрков.?

Тук17 и Тук24 скорее всего прототюрки?

Торговцы специями 

[Srkz]

Хорасанские торговцы специями) спекулянт и его слуга селькуп самоед.  Неправильную  князю пошлину заплатили, потому товар у них забрали и на погосте их закопали.

Да ладно Может, это союзные чёрные клобуки, как grimsvotn написал, раз уж закопали с христианами, или "свои" половцы. Всё-таки, и до 1200-х годов, и после, военные отряды из степи не раз поступали русским князьям на службу. У Андрея Боголюбского так вообще мать была половчанка. Хотя может, конечно, и убитые чужаки какие-нибудь.

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В 1155 году берендеи, состоявшие на службе у Юрия Долгорукого (1155 до 1157 года) во время его киевского княжения, захватили в плен много половцев. Уцелевшие отправились в степь за помощью, подошли к Киеву и попросили князя, чтобы тот приказал наёмникам вернуть пленных, но те отказались: «Мы умираем за Русскую землю с твоим сыном и головы свои складываем за твою честь, а пленники — наша собственность».

Данные топонимии свидетельствует о том, что часть берендеев была переселена во Владимиро-Суздальскую землю (слобода Берендеева, ст. Берендеево, Берендеево болото и др.). А. С. Плетнёва считает, что эти берендеи вероятнее всего были переселены из Поросья Юрием Долгоруким и Андреем Боголюбским в период их обладания киевским столом[11]

11) Плетнёва С. А. Древности черных клобуков // Свод археологических источников Москва, 1973. С. 25

[Tora_sama]

Интересно, где же Ешник окажется на древе)

[Srkz]

А вот это неплохо было бы и проверить. Интересно, нету пока каких либо подвижек по изучению  адна  одонтологического строения зверски убииеннАго святАго князя?

Да уж, неплохо бы и генетический анализ получить. Раз уж в наши дни монголоидности при исследовании черепа не обнаруживают.

[zastrug]

У Андрея Боголюбского так вообще мать была половчанка. Хотя может, конечно, и убитые чужаки какие-нибудь.

Боголюбский вообще нифига не исключение. "Тугарин-Змей" тесть Святополка Изяславовича, Игорь Святославич, тот о котором "Слово о полку Игореве" тоже наполовину половец - мама у него половецкая "принцесса", а сын его пока они после неудачного похода в плену у половцев были тоже подженился на половчанке и родили они будущего великого князя Киевского Изяслава... И еще с десяток князей. В общем-то из-за этого по родственному вписались за половцев и огребли по полной на Калке.

[Srkz]

Боголюбский вообще нифига не исключение.

Ну я именно относительно Северо-Востока, всё-таки не степное пограничье, как на юге.

[Srkz]

Протыкал образцы в Вахадуо:

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Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL004
0.04103870 Komi
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0.04655410 Komi
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Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL006
0.02758285 Russian_Pinega
0.02984848 Vepsian
0.03279743 Karelian
0.03928720 Finnish_East
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0.07267930 Cossack_Ukrainian
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0.07287894 Russian_Voronez
0.07314452 Lithuanian_VA
0.07406636 Belarusian
0.07461553 Lithuanian_PZ
0.07494262 Lithuanian_VZ

Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL007
0.03246907 Komi
0.05039927 Russian_Pinega
0.05748198 Vepsian
0.05895004 Tatar_Mishar
0.06152042 Karelian
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0.10794670 Tatar_Lipka
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0.04801528 Komi
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0.03811561 Komi
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Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:GOS002
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Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:GOS003
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0.05218841 Moldovan_o
0.05237657 Mordovian
0.05247423 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.05460795 Ingrian
0.05633142 Finnish
0.05798529 Cossack_Kuban
0.05881259 Slovakian

Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_MA1:SHE006
0.03522034 Vepsian
0.03735903 Mordovian
0.03850981 Karelian
0.04009705 Russian_Pinega
0.04187124 Russian_Kostroma
0.04409105 Finnish_East
0.04524023 Cossack_Kuban
0.04728644 Ingrian
0.05362479 Finnish
0.05736325 Russian_Tver
0.05874934 Komi
0.05985633 Tatar_Mishar
0.06328297 Russian_Kursk
0.06587381 Estonian
0.06713688 Russian_Orel
0.06929883 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.07012897 Russian_Voronez
0.07172221 Moldovan_o
0.07318797 Ukrainian
0.07425186 Lithuanian_VA
0.07427321 Lithuanian_PA
0.07486602 Belarusian
0.07538785 Lithuanian_RA
0.07621331 Russian_Smolensk
0.07759952 Latvian

Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:SHE007
0.03937171 Russian_Voronez
0.03987145 Russian_Orel
0.04084946 Russian_Smolensk
0.04099664 Russian_Kursk
0.04269037 Ukrainian
0.04520631 Belarusian
0.04524311 Russian_Tver
0.04532237 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.04537822 Moldovan_o
0.04648868 Polish
0.05087757 Russian_Kostroma
0.05097890 Mordovian
0.05298545 Lithuanian_PA
0.05346949 Cossack_Kuban
0.05359026 Lithuanian_VA
0.05606826 Czech
0.05726170 Estonian
0.05783309 Lithuanian_RA
0.05784294 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.05790538 Slovakian
0.05876767 Lithuanian_VZ
0.05978952 Hungarian
0.06029677 Slovenian
0.06044354 Ingrian
0.06061565 Finnish

Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_H:SHE008
0.03477201 Afrikaner
0.03573900 Dutch
0.03854190 Norwegian
0.03859360 French_Brittany
0.03869912 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03876298 German
0.03921750 Welsh
0.04034873 English
0.04056231 Belgian
0.04087480 Scottish
0.04102794 Irish
0.04213199 Orcadian
0.04300224 Austrian
0.04313212 English_Cornwall
0.04313284 Shetlandic
0.04370013 Icelandic
0.04451297 Swedish
0.04460581 French_Nord
0.04520130 French_Paris
0.04567142 Danish
0.04632648 French_Alsace
0.04643781 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04911309 Swiss_German
0.05211579 Hungarian
0.05227246 Czech

Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_H:SHE009
0.02977767 Ukrainian
0.02982520 Moldovan_o
0.03050562 Russian_Orel
0.03063657 Russian_Voronez
0.03113624 Russian_Kursk
0.03324254 Polish
0.03354383 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.03482624 Russian_Tver
0.03595438 Russian_Smolensk
0.03659062 Belarusian
0.03738633 Slovakian
0.03999210 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.04122516 Cossack_Kuban
0.04246610 Czech
0.04263197 Lithuanian_PA
0.04458576 Mordovian
0.04573095 Russian_Kostroma
0.04576231 Lithuanian_VA
0.04697393 Hungarian
0.04726230 Slovenian
0.04855536 Estonian
0.04930878 Croatian
0.04993337 Lithuanian_RA
0.05014488 German_East
0.05284458 Lithuanian_VZ

Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_MA-nomad:SHK001
0.04090811 Tubalar
0.04582272 Karakalpak
0.05458465 Nogai
0.05757979 Kazakh
0.05985841 Shor_Mountain
0.06059092 Tatar_Siberian
0.06075595 Shor
0.06326252 Shor_Khakassia
0.07295798 Khakass
0.08115947 Hazara
0.08441955 Uygur
0.08507829 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.08992344 Kirghiz
0.09014208 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.09264827 Kirghiz_China
0.09418517 Bashkir
0.10229725 Yukagir_Forest
0.10892302 Uzbek
0.11295865 Khakass_Kachins
0.11300766 Kazakh_China
0.11366308 Altaian
0.13128021 Mansi
0.13358457 Khanty
0.13766343 Ket
0.14326048 Tlingit

Distance to: RUS_VolgaOka_MA-nomad:SHK002
0.02470817 Karakalpak
0.03520029 Nogai
0.05101216 Kazakh
0.05445203 Hazara
0.05658228 Uygur
0.06572830 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.06716885 Tubalar
0.07073800 Tatar_Siberian
0.08787486 Uzbek
0.08808157 Shor
0.08953149 Kirghiz
0.08955162 Shor_Mountain
0.09032051 Kirghiz_China
0.09340425 Shor_Khakassia
0.09552810 Khakass
0.09735825 Bashkir
0.11264433 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.11357606 Kazakh_China
0.11390339 Yukagir_Forest
0.12305767 Altaian
0.12765544 Khakass_Kachins
0.13572660 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.14528486 Turkmen
0.15833996 Tlingit
0.16080890 Mansi
G25

Код: [Выделить]

RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL001,0.112685,0.026404,0.084098,0.089148,0.007078,0.01255,0.016921,0.019384,-0.011453,-0.04155,0.006658,-0.012739,0.02215,0.001514,-0.009229,-0.016043,-0.010431,-0.006081,-0.008296,0.001251,0.003494,-0.001113,-0.003574,-0.022654,0.003832
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL002,0.112685,0.014217,0.097674,0.097546,-0.001539,0.014223,0.014806,0.014076,-0.001227,-0.035901,0.015914,-0.005095,0.014271,-0.017065,-0.00855,-0.001724,-0.000522,0.001014,-0.003017,0.001751,0.003119,0.002597,0.00419,-0.003374,-0.001317
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL004,0.10927,0.00914,0.098051,0.090117,-0.00954,0.013945,0.011986,0.019615,-0.001432,-0.034443,0.013153,-0.01139,0.018137,-0.007432,-0.012351,-0.008618,-0.014342,0.001647,0.000503,0.004752,0.007861,-0.004328,-0.003328,0.00241,0.002155
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL005,0.120652,0.036559,0.093903,0.076551,0.001231,0.013945,0.00705,0.017076,-0.00409,-0.053213,0.015265,-0.010191,0.035381,0.004129,-0.024158,0.000928,0.018515,-0.002407,-0.006034,0.006628,0.00025,-0.00371,0.012078,-0.000602,0.00012
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL006,0.121791,0.066009,0.090132,0.08721,0.016926,0.026216,0.004935,0.017538,-0.0045,-0.035172,0.012342,-0.007643,0.028246,0.01913,-0.011129,0.006629,0.005346,0.001267,-0.007793,0.001501,0.003244,-0.005441,0.001725,-0.011206,-0.002515
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL007,0.113823,0.032497,0.089755,0.084303,0.007386,0.00753,0.00987,0.015922,-0.007567,-0.043554,0.014453,-0.012889,0.025421,-0.006881,-0.011943,-0.003713,0.004172,-0.005701,0.005531,0.002251,-0.000499,0.002844,0.002218,-0.004699,-0.000958
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL008,0.113823,0.019295,0.098051,0.095931,-0.001539,0.018686,0.015276,0.009692,-0.010431,-0.046835,0.016239,-0.01124,0.024975,0.008945,-0.015608,-0.000928,-0.003651,0.004561,-0.008673,0.001251,0.006114,-0.006801,0.001356,-0.015183,0.00012
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL009,0.117238,0.041637,0.085229,0.084626,0.000923,0.020917,0.012926,0.013615,-0.0045,-0.040274,0.011692,-0.009591,0.016799,-0.000413,-0.010586,0.013789,0.018123,-0.005068,-0.003771,-0.000625,0.007487,0.000495,0.002465,0.000241,0.005269
RUS_VolgaOka_MA1:GOR001,0.117238,0.07718,0.082967,0.076228,0.022773,0.019243,0.013866,0.009923,0.003477,-0.035172,0.005846,-0.009591,0.018434,0.010459,-0.011401,-0.001989,0.003912,-0.006334,-0.000251,0.004502,-0.003743,-0.004575,0.0053,0.005784,-0.002515
RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:GOS001,0.120652,0.102568,0.078818,0.05814,0.031698,0.015618,0.010575,0.014538,0.000818,-0.012392,-0.006496,-0.01124,0.013231,0.012386,-0.003122,0.000796,0.005737,-0.001394,-0.000754,0.006378,0.005615,0.000371,0.005176,-0.003494,-0.007784
RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:GOS002,0.127482,0.11577,0.075801,0.069768,0.034468,0.026774,0.011045,0.012692,0.000205,-0.021504,0.002436,-0.001199,0.015015,0.023258,-0.002714,-0.008353,-0.01343,-0.002534,0.010056,0.00075,-0.007612,-0.005317,0.007025,0.000843,-0.008263
RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:GOS003,0.122929,0.122879,0.04978,0.052972,0.042469,0.019243,-0.00094,0.017538,0.006954,-0.016583,0.00341,-0.005545,-0.00223,0.015138,-0.004479,0.016441,0.017863,-0.008488,-0.003142,0.001126,0.001622,-0.002597,0.016638,-0.011929,0.010418
RUS_VolgaOka_H:KBL002,0.121791,0.1046,0.075424,0.065246,0.030775,0.023706,0.010105,0.014538,-0.001636,-0.020957,0.001461,-0.005995,0.015907,0.020231,-0.013979,0.003182,0.002738,0.00114,0.00176,0,-0.002371,-0.007914,0.011216,0.002289,0.001796
RUS_VolgaOka_H:KBL003,0.119514,0.093429,0.067882,0.058786,0.039392,0.018128,-0.00846,0.005769,-0.010226,-0.022962,-0.000812,-0.004946,0.012636,0.025323,-0.010179,-0.00305,0.003651,-0.003927,0.010182,0.001376,-0.006239,-0.001978,0.004314,-0.003615,-0.008622
RUS_VolgaOka_H:KED001,0.127482,0.107646,0.07731,0.069122,0.025235,0.023985,0.00846,0.021461,-0.0045,-0.03098,0.002436,-0.009442,0.020367,0.02546,-0.005157,-0.009414,-0.012647,-0.002027,-0.003645,0.00075,-0.002745,0.004451,0.006655,0.000723,0.001916
RUS_VolgaOka_H:KED002,0.129758,0.105615,0.07995,0.06783,0.036314,0.016455,0.00705,0.012692,-0.005113,-0.024784,0.002436,-0.007643,0.019475,0.014313,-0.00475,0.009546,0.004824,0.000127,0.005028,-0.006378,0,0.001113,0.018117,0.001205,0.009221
RUS_VolgaOka_H:KED003,0.133173,0.105615,0.07731,0.063308,0.031698,0.01506,0.013631,0.016384,0.001841,-0.023326,0.005846,-0.013638,0.010704,0.018579,-0.012893,-0.003447,0.000522,-0.009122,0.006913,0.007504,-0.005116,-0.010634,0.001972,-0.009519,-0.006945
RUS_VolgaOka_H_o:KED004,0.119514,0.094444,0.042238,0.033592,0.008617,0.008925,0.003995,0.008077,-0.016771,-0.011481,-0.000162,-0.002548,0.000595,0.012111,-0.00855,-0.012463,-0.009648,0.00114,0.007039,-0.009505,0.001747,-0.004451,0.00037,-0.006145,-0.001317
RUS_VolgaOka_H:KRS001,0.126344,0.097491,0.075047,0.068476,0.021542,0.024821,0.009165,0.010615,-0.00225,-0.018406,-0.001624,-0.009891,0.021258,0.013487,-0.016286,0.00769,0.019036,-0.005068,-0.00088,0.003126,0.009358,0.002844,0.00419,0.005784,-0.008263
RUS_VolgaOka_MA1:SHE003,0.117238,0.045699,0.086361,0.08075,0.01908,0.02008,0.012926,0.018922,-0.006749,-0.029522,0.013153,-0.016335,0.029732,0.023671,-0.013572,-0.012861,-0.008475,-0.00152,0.005531,-0.003627,0.000374,-0.001978,0.00037,-0.017593,-0.002036
RUS_VolgaOka_MA1:SHE004,0.120652,0.07718,0.089378,0.091086,0.022158,0.02259,0.00846,0.00923,0,-0.037541,0.009743,-0.014987,0.023042,0.012386,-0.020358,0.008751,0.01708,-0.011655,-0.006662,0.008879,0.001373,-0.005317,0.000616,-0.009158,0.000599
RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:SHE005,0.110408,0.121864,0.075801,0.073644,0.023697,0.034025,0.002585,0.010153,-0.002454,-0.036447,0.00065,-0.007343,0.016501,0.025185,-0.006515,-0.003182,-0.004303,-0.007601,0.002263,-0.004627,0.000873,-0.012984,0.005053,-0.011929,-0.004431
RUS_VolgaOka_MA1:SHE006,0.114961,0.069056,0.084475,0.073967,0.017542,0.012271,0.002585,0.013384,0.000614,-0.031345,-0.001299,-0.012589,0.02334,0.009496,-0.011943,0.005569,0.020601,-0.004307,-0.000754,0.01088,-0.000374,-0.00643,-0.006286,-0.000482,0.007544
RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:SHE007,0.113823,0.113739,0.066373,0.059109,0.01908,0.012829,0.008225,0.018922,0.000205,-0.018041,-0.003248,-0.005395,0.022745,0.032204,-0.011129,-0.010077,-0.005867,-0.004181,-0.003771,0.010255,0.013102,-0.008285,0.005793,-0.011688,-0.005389
RUS_VolgaOka_H:SHE008,0.121791,0.122879,0.055437,0.04199,0.035083,0.023427,0.008695,0.003461,0.002659,0.007107,-0.004547,0.005395,-0.009366,-0.013487,0.016286,0.022275,0.014212,-0.003801,0.005279,0.007629,0.00861,-0.005812,-0.001849,0.011929,-0.003712
RUS_VolgaOka_H:SHE009,0.119514,0.107646,0.065242,0.052326,0.039392,0.026216,0.011281,0.011769,0.000205,-0.015308,-0.008444,-0.007044,0.015609,0.024634,-0.013572,-0.002387,0.005215,-0.004054,0.013324,0.003752,0.004492,-0.009521,0.00037,0.00012,-0.001078
RUS_VolgaOka_MA-nomad:SHK001,0.073985,-0.182795,0.062979,0.014858,-0.04924,-0.018686,0.001645,0.00923,-0.012271,-0.006378,-0.013803,-0.002847,0.003717,-0.015138,0.002307,-0.006895,-0.009909,0.0019,0.01257,0.009379,-0.022959,0.001978,-0.00493,-0.006989,-0.002395
RUS_VolgaOka_MA-nomad:SHK002,0.066017,-0.174671,0.042615,-0.000646,-0.038469,-0.003347,0.007755,0.014769,-0.009613,-0.008383,-0.021922,-0.001499,-0.000297,-0.004817,0.002986,0.011403,-0.00326,0.003294,0.010936,0.012006,-0.018467,-0.003586,-0.016885,0.002048,-0.000599


[Tora_sama]

Хотел выложить образцы, но смотрю Сергей уже сделал)
Объединённый железный век:
VolgaOka_IA,0.1152459,0.0307198,0.0921116,0.088179 ,0.0026158,0.0160015,0.0117212,0.0158648,-0.00565,-0.0413678,0.0132145,-0.0100972,0.0231725,0.0002409,-0.0129442,-0.00121,0.0021512,-0.001346,-0.0039438,0.002345,0.0038838,-0.0019321,0.0021412,-0.0068834,0.0008382

Русский Рязани/Мокша
Distance to:  Tora_sama
0.02349970  RUS_VolgaOka_H:KBL002
0.03155595  RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:GOS001
0.03156567  RUS_VolgaOka_H:KED003
0.03549713  RUS_VolgaOka_H:SHE009
0.03587510  RUS_VolgaOka_H:KED001
0.03597645  RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.03693205  RUS_VolgaOka_H:KRS001
0.03727735  CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I16089
0.03823782  RUS_VolgaOka_H:KED002
0.03853160  RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:GOS002
0.03854857  VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK272
0.03864688  HUN_Conqueror_elite:K110
0.03933112  VK2020_UKR_Lutsk_MA:VK541
0.04001334  RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:SHE007
0.04052416  VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK457
0.04053054  RUS_VolgaOka_H:KBL003
0.04111855  RUS_VolgaOka_MA1:GOR001
0.04179509  HUN_IA_La_Tene_o:I18226
0.04204539  ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_3:I10949
0.04342417  VK2020_UKR_Chernigov_VA_o:VK542
0.04480939  Migration:POH41
0.04531223  CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569
0.04550467  HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.04594201  HUN_early_Avar_military_leader:DK701
0.04594996  HUN_early_Arpadian_commoner:VPB600

Русская Москва/Невель
Distance to: Nasty
0.03289952 RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.03435356 RUS_VolgaOka_H:KBL002
0.03546323 HUN_IA_La_Tene_o:I18226
0.03547008 DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA001
0.03632483 DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA009
0.03689470 RUS_VolgaOka_H:KED003
0.03696725 CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I16089
0.03761721 VK2020_UKR_Lutsk_MA:VK541
0.03804046 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK474
0.03826649 VK2020_SWE_Skara_VA:VK395
0.03842689 VK2020_POL_Bodzia_VA:VK157
0.03842884 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_3:I10949
0.03876700 HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.03885467 HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.03909970 RUS_VolgaOka_H:KED002
0.03910640 VK2020_DNK_Funen_VA:VK139
0.03959666 Migration:POH41
0.04014874 Scythian_HUN:I20745
0.04022245 HRV_Osijek:R3657___AD_280
0.04025507 DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA011
0.04077208 VK2020_POL_Bodzia_VA:VK156
0.04085982 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK457
0.04089346 VK2020_RUS_Kurevanikha_VA:VK160
0.04092465 RUS_VolgaOka_MA2:GOS001
0.04129155 SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146

[Fire]

Раньше Куманы потом Кипчаки с чего поменяли имя?
Имя Кипчаков в эпоху восточно-Европейских Куманов,
еще в Средней Азии

Э, тут проще ситуация. Просто один и тот же народ соседи называли разными именами.

Например мы называем немцев немцами, а для французов они аллеманы(Allemands), для итальянцев - тедески(Tedeschi) и так далее.

Так и с кыпчаками - для западных европейцев они куманы, для русских -  половцы, для исламского мира - кипчаки.

Шары/Сары=желтые, золотые, светлые, добрые, вот самоназвание , отметились такие у Арабов
 в 10/11 веке прибыли из Китая
Кипчаки в шестом/седьмом веке ушли из Монголии и долго оставались в немного-людном тогда Казахстане.
Сары-Шары/Хардеш=Желтые(Половцы) все эти названия имеют почти одинаковые рассказы в летописях  Арабов и Армян, плюс и Фальб у Германцев
А то что Половцами называли Кипчаков позже пришедших на территории Половцев, это анахронизм тот что раньше и с  Сарматами, эпицентр Азиатской Сарматии/ Изначальной Кавказской Сарматии которая под собой позже имеет и половину Грузии в Армянской Географии,,,
 это культура Катакомбных захоронений а Аорсы Сарматы это Анахронизм, Аорсы из за Волги, а к востоку от Волги небыло Сарматов согласно
им современным  Летописцам и Географам

Почти все они там в средневековье Тюрки которым 1400 лет по языку если не считать Тувинцев   и Чувашей, кроме наверно Кимаков которые возможно Монголы, и которые смешивались с Кипчаками а не с Желтыми Сары, хотя Сары смешивались с Кипчаками и не только поэтому двойные названия Сары-Кыпчаки , Шира-Йогуры, Сары-Тюргеши итд их много, из за популярности золотого/желтого/светлового для самоназвание разных Тюрков

[Srkz]

Шары/Сары=желтые, золотые, светлые, добрые самоназвание , отметились такие у Арабов
 в 10/11 веке прибыли из Китая
Кипчаки в шестом/седьмом веке ушли из Монголии и долго оставались в немного-людном тогда Казахстане.
Сары-Шары/Хардеш/Фадлан=Желтые(Половцы) все эти 3 названия имеют почти одинаковые рассказы в летописях  Арабов и Армян
А то что Половцами называли Кипчаков позже пришедших на территории Половцев, это анахронизм тот что раньше и с  Сарматами,

Ну то есть, выходит, что сначала половцы-куманы пришли на запад из Китая через территории кипчаков, а потом уже кипчаки пришли на запад из Казахстана на территории половцев. Русские же до того различали разных кочевников (угры, хазары, печенеги, торки, берендеи), а вот начиная с куман решили всех звать половцами. Только потом опять передумали, и монголо-татар половцами звать не стали, наоборот, бывших половцев переименовали в татар. Ок.

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Шары/Сары=желтые, золотые, светлые, добрые самоназвание , отметились такие у Арабов
 в 10/11 веке прибыли из Китая
Кипчаки в шестом/седьмом веке ушли из Монголии и долго оставались в немного-людном тогда Казахстане.
Сары-Шары/Хардеш/Фадлан=Желтые(Половцы) все эти 3 названия имеют почти одинаковые рассказы в летописях  Арабов и Армян
А то что Половцами называли Кипчаков позже пришедших на территории Половцев, это анахронизм тот что раньше и с  Сарматами,

Ну то есть, выходит, что сначала половцы-куманы пришли на запад из Китая через территории кипчаков, а потом уже кипчаки пришли на запад из Казахстана на территории половцев. Русские же до того различали разных кочевников (угры, хазары, печенеги, торки, берендеи), а вот начиная с куман решили всех звать половцами. Только потом опять передумали, и монголо-татар половцами звать не стали, наоборот, бывших половцев переименовали в татар. Ок.

Из за степи которая "Половская" и в центре которой Кипчаки
То же самое и со Скифской Степью в которой и Скифы-Сколоты от Ингульца и Тясмина до Дона
и Скифы-Савроматы  и Скифы-Макроцефалы и Сарматы дети гор Кавказа и Ализоны и в ее эпицентре владения Массагетов и на востоке остатки Черногоровцев и потомков Андроновцев

Половцы-Сары с Кунами пришли из Китая преследуемые Каями и Китайцами, Кипчаки властвовали восточными Тюркутами не в Китае а в Монголии и были изгнаны ими, возможно и язык их переняли если изначально они не Тюрки а скажем там Монголы или например Ираноязычные.
Ашина род правительский у Тюрков на востоке, говорят Иранского происхождения

[G-Man]

Субклады тюркских образцов:


SHK001   

https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-PH1795/


SHK002

https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-VL77/

Аутосомные карты сделали

https://i.imgur.com/agD8EGO.png

https://i.imgur.com/X4BKAPc.png

Сходство с современными популяциями

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Субклады тюркских образцов:


SHK001   

https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-PH1795/


SHK002

https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-VL77/

Аутосомные карты сделали

https://i.imgur.com/agD8EGO.png

https://i.imgur.com/X4BKAPc.png

Сходство с современными популяциями

Здесь явно Кипчаки игзнаные Тюркутами в степи будущего Казахстана из степей будущей Монголии и оставшиеся там бездвижно на 4-5 веков.
А не Половцы/Сары-Шары/Хардеш/Фальб+Куны изгнаные Каями и Китайцами из степей будущего Китая в 10-11 веке и почти молниеносно за век или меньше прибывшие на запад и потеснившие Печенегов и Огузов из Причерноморья.

Меня поражает как легко так такие точные  данные летописцев про разных народов, разные в основном Российские Иследователи и Историки смешивают в одну кучу.


Подтверждение и по ДНК очень похоже что это либо Род  Ашина либо его последователи либо Прото-Тюрки  (с происхождением из Ближнего Востока), у Тюркутов и Кипчаков 
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-PH1795/

А это далекие потомки Прото-Уральцев из будущих северной Монголии и северной Манджурии, у Тюркутов и Кипчаков 
https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-VL77/

[Srkz]

По результатам общения на "Генофонде" появились некоторые дополнительные комментарии:
Кластеры MA1 и MA2 разнесены не только генетически, но и хронологически, на чём в статье почему-то не акцентируется внимания, и сначала выглядит, будто они жили одновременно. "Меряне" MA1 это с 9 по начало 11 века, "славяне" MA2 - 11-12 века. Также, восточноевропейский компонент MA1 отличается от MA2, там не видно вклада неолитических земледельцев EEF.
То есть, можно предположить, что MA1 не является миксом MA2 и "рязано-окцев" IA, "Восточную Европу" им привнесли другие мигранты. Собственно, сюда наиболее напрашиваются балты. Вопрос, как в это вписывается R1a-L1029 у GOR001? Вроде как, ветвь считается в основном славянской, а не балтийской, хотя отдельные подветви есть всякие, да и прародину её varang помещал на западе. Отнести её на раннюю волну славянских миграций? Значит, поначалу повышенного по сравнению с балтами EEF у славян не было? Но у псковских и новгородских русских эта разница с соседями есть. Не разбираюсь я в миграциях и подветвях R1a.