I spoke on page 72 of the Drobnjak thread from the Poreklo forum about the hypothesis that the I-FGC22061 haplogroup could have been brought to the Balkans by an official of the Ottoman empire who was of Abazin origin. This was based on the fact that one of the important Drobnjak historical personalities was Pavle Abazović, supposed to have the I-FGC22061 haplogroup by A. Jakšić (I-FT36856), who considers himself one of his descendants on the direct paternal line.https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=472.msg183966#msg183966My father has autosomal matches of Albanian origin with the names Abaza/Abazi. In my opinion (based on my research and the dictionary quoted below) this surname encountered in people of Albanian origin (like Dritan Abazović, the former prime minister of Montenegro) cames from Ottoman officials of Abazin origin who worked in the Balkans when these territories were part of the Ottoman empire. And the I1 haplogroup can be encountered in these people because of the military campaigns in the Caucasus by the Rus' (Varangians) of Scandinavian origin. Of course nobody believed me on the Poreklo forum, where the opinion was that the surname Abaza/Abazi and its derivatives like Abazović came from the Turkish name Abbas.
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{translation from Rumanian}
ABAZA ethnic [name], from the Abazi or Abkhazi, Caucasian people, Circassians who came [to medieval Moldavia] alongside the wife of Vasile Lupu ([as written in the chronicle of Miron] Costin). 1. Abază, Nicolae, nephew of Vasile Lupu [ruler of Moldavia 1595-1661], who apparently took his name from the renowned Abaza, pasha of Silistra, contemporary. [...] 2. Abăzești, Moldavian family originary from Abazia [Abkhazia]
N.A.Constantinescu: Dictionary of Rumanian Family Names
https://www.academia.edu/58218490/N_A_Constantinescu_Dic%C5%A3ionar_onomastic_rom%C3%A2nesc_1963_-----------------
The Abaza family of boyars from Moldavia doesn't have any contemporary descendants, but one of its branches exists in Russia. It would be interesting to know its Y haplogroup.Абаза (род)
tinyurl.com/abaza-russia
But until then, I was surprised to see a new Y-12 match of my father from the Caucasus. His name is Tuz and is from Russia (Republic of Adygea). His earliest known ancestor was: ШIупакIо, Circassia (Natukhay). See the screenshot below:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c4IkiW8pIQ2PdqBTC4uWdJa2Sc3j6gPJ/view?usp=sharingHe is also a member of the Circassian FTDNA Project:
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/circassian/about/backgroundThis is what I found about his surname from the description of a video from the Circassian Genealogy channel:
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Супако (адыг. ШIупакIо) - древний дворянский род, некогда населявший земли натухайского субэтноса. О нём осталось множество сведений, относящихся к периоду Кавказской войны.[...]
{automatic translation from Russian}
Supako (Adyghe ShIupakIo) is an ancient noble family that once inhabited the lands of the Natukhai subethnic group.[...]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CscthBkIXOo----------
Tuz's haplogroup is I-M253, but there is a big problem, about which I already spoke on the I-FGC22045 thread from this forum. This extremely generic haplogroup was obtained after a Big Y test (!!!). How is this possible? Very simple. FTDNA has no quality control these days and if you don't contact them and tell them to correct their mistakes they will never do it. In this situation the I-M253 haplogroup after a Big Y test is clearly a mistake and Tuz paid a lot of money for no information about his precise haplogroup.
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