Prevoskhodnaya Irina Morskaya,
proshu proshchenia, chto pishu latinitsey, no mozhet byt' moi post budet Vam v chem-to poleznym. Neochen' vazhno to, chto ya tozhe po ottsovskoy linii yavliayus' I1*. Vse snipy (SNP - Single Nucleotide Polymorphism, t.e. to chto opredeliaet k kakoy gaplogruppe prinadlezhit chelovek) provereny, dazhe na 23andMe, i vsyo taki poluchaetsa to zhe samoe: prostoy I1* klassifitsirovannyi "papoy gaplogruppy I" Kenom Nordtvedtom, kak "sub-clade" ("pod-gaplogruppa") I1-Anglo-Saxon Transitional 2.
Zvuchilo by neplokho, no na samom dele, poskol'ku moya ottsovskaya semia proizkhodit iz territorii v treugolnike mezhdu sovremennoy Polshey (Podlasie), Belarussiey (Polesie) i Ukrainoy (Volyn'), vsyo eto zvuchit sovsem zamanchivo i stranno. Moi sovpadenia na baze
www.ysearch.org - a tochno po etoy teme mogu Vam mozhet byt' nemnozhko podskazat' - napravlyayut mne k anglo-saksonskoy semii Harris s grafstva Essex a takzhe Devon. Eto oznachaet chto po tak zvannym markeram STR (Short Tandem Repeat) na khromosome Y, kotorye yavliayutsia "musornym" geneticheskim materialom peredayushchimsia s ottsa k synu, s nekotorymi Harris'ami u menia rasstoyanie 2 na 25 markerov i 4 na 37. No kogda sdelal test 67-markerovoi, togda raznitsa uvelichaetsia do 10. Eto oznachaet chto chem bolshe markerov delayu tem rannee okazyvaetsia zhyl moy obshchyi muzhskiy predok z Harris'ami. Tolko nedavno nashel pervyi match blizhe s neznakomym mne po familii Estoncom, estestvenno I1* po gaplogruppe.
U Vas deystvitel'no situatsia eshche bolee strannaya. Posmotrel na Vashy bliskie “matchy” po markeram Y-STR (t.e. rezultaty tekh ludey kotorye imeyut s Vashimi samoe malenkoye geneticheskoye rasstoyanie). Tam bolshinstvo matchey 0/37 (t.e. 0 raznits po pervym 37 markeram) pokazyvaet na semiu Hull s Crewkerne, grafstvo Somerset. S etogo nekotorye srazu sdelayut vyvod chto odin iz Vashikh predkov po strogo muzhskoy linii v poslednie pokolenia - 2, 3 mozhet byt’ 5, ne ranshe chem 1 pol. 19 veka - obyazatel’no prinadlezhal k rodu Hull. No, eto slishkom bystro skazano.
Vo-pervykh, ya by Vam posovetoval ubedit’ odnovo s etikh Hull’ey chtoby rosshyrit’ test do 67 markerov. Khorosho by sviazatsya s tem u kogo nay search kod TDZK8. Vashemu uvazhaemu diadie, kotorogo kod dumayu EP97A, tozhe nado rosshyrit test do 67 i potom sravnit’. Togda budet vidnee v kakoyu storonu poydut Vashi issledovania. Esli geneticheskoye rasstoyanie uvelichitsya, togda rech idet o dalekom rodstve, mozhet byt cherez kakogo-to Shotlandtsa ili Shveda priezzhego v Rossiu v 18 v. Esli takogo ne budet, togda eto stanet poiskom za sekretami semeynymi, a eto tonche delo.
Mne kak to smotritsa pervoy khipotez. Tam u Vashego diadi est eshche matchy s Hagberg’om iz Shvetsii 1 na 37 (HBEMT na ysearch) I s Wright Mac Leod s Shotlandii 2/37 (Z3UFY na ysearch).
Zdes na forum mnogo spetsialistov znayushchikh temu geneticheskoy genealogii namnogo luchshe menia, no ya prosto khotel podelitsia s Vami sobstvennym opytom I posovetovat’ chtoby sdelal na Vashem meste.
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Тема: Новички I1 (Прочитано 263305 раз)