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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #885 : 26 Август 2014, 01:17:34 »
Это бабуля)) Но думаю ощущаешь себя как прокаженный эльф))
может, "прокаченный", уровня до 90го?))

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #886 : 26 Август 2014, 05:14:23 »
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mordovians @ 4.603073
2 Russian @ 6.719779
3 Mordovian @ 7.036997
Два раза Mordovian - это сильно. Это,очевидно, труЪ Mordovian.

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #887 : 26 Август 2014, 12:37:31 »
да эти Roma есть у всех,  вероятно - результат древнего родства восточноевропейских и южноазиатских популяций.
Судя по количеству этого ромы у всех выходцев из Восточной Европы, и папа, и мама его были вполне себе славянами, а цыгане выкрали этого Рому из его семьи.

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #888 : 26 Август 2014, 12:57:20 »
Admix Results (sorted):

#   Population   Percent
1   East_European   41.25
2   Mediterranean   17.9
3   North_West_European   15.21
4   Caucasian   11.24
5   Volga-Uralic   3.74
6   Afroasiatic   1.97
7   Roma   1.7
8   South_East_Asian   1.41
9   Arctic   1.01
10   South_Central_Asian   0.99
11   West_Siberian   0.92
12   East_African   0.88
13   East_Siberian   0.76
14   Sami-Finnic   0.7
15   Melano-Austronesian   0.3

Single Population Sharing:

#   Population (source)   Distance
1   Bosnian   3.7
2   Croat   3.92
3   Serb_BH   4.28
4   Croat_BH   4.53
5   Croatian   5.75
6   Slovenian   6.15
7   Hungarians   6.15
8   Serb_Serbia   8.39
9   Czech   8.79
10   Montenegrian   9.74
11   Slovak   10.25
12   German   10.72
13   Russian_South   11.27
14   Bulgarians   11.76
15   Macedonian   12.12
16   Austrian   13.7
17   Mixed_CEU   14.3
18   Gagauz   15.08
19   Ukranians   17.88
20   Don_cossack   18.15

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarians +50% Czech @ 3.796361


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarians +25% Mixed_European +25% South-Russian @ 2.892194


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarians + North_Italian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.361704
2 Montenegrian + North_Italian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.537138
3 Bulgarians + North_Italian + South-Russian + Ukrainian @ 2.686190
4 Bulgarians + Kuban_cossack + North_Italian + Ukrainian @ 2.719290
5 Bulgarians + North_Italian + Pole + Ukrainian @ 2.748582
6 Austrian + Bulgarians + Serb_Serbia + Ukrainian @ 2.762751
7 Bulgarians + Don_cossack + North_Italian + Ukrainian @ 2.796067
8 Bulgarians + North_Italian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 2.799372
9 Austrian + Bulgarians + Croat + Ukrainian @ 2.814462
10 Belarusian + Bulgarians + Bulgarians + Mixed_European @ 2.848754
11 Austrian + Bulgarians + Serb_BH + Ukrainian @ 2.853389
12 Montenegrian + North_Italian + South-Russian + Ukrainian @ 2.863314
13 Bulgarians + Center-Russian + North_Italian + Ukrainian @ 2.869532
14 Austrian + Bulgarians + Croat_BH + Ukrainian @ 2.874220
15 Bulgarians + Bulgarians + Mixed_European + South-Russian @ 2.892194
16 Bulgarians + Bulgarians + Mixed_European + West-Belarusian @ 2.893158
17 Macedonian + North_Italian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.893920
18 Bulgarians + Mixed_European + Serb_Serbia + Ukrainian @ 2.897967
19 Don_cossack + Montenegrian + North_Italian + Ukrainian @ 2.900453
20 Bulgarians + Bulgarians + German + Sorbs @ 2.907052

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #889 : 26 Август 2014, 13:22:07 »
не, там был именно что другой вариант расчета, ставивший то ли какую-то французскую популяцию, то ли басков на первое место по абсолютным значениям WHG.
Это, наверное, были эксперименты Поляко с использованием бедуинов как прокси AME (древних ближневосточников)

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #890 : 26 Август 2014, 13:32:11 »
Что-то украинцы далеко от галичанина

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #891 : 26 Август 2014, 13:47:34 »
Судя по количеству этого ромы у всех выходцев из Восточной Европы, и папа, и мама его были вполне себе славянами, а цыгане выкрали этого Рому из его семьи.
вероятно, из его мезолитической семьи)
Это, наверное, были эксперименты Поляко с использованием бедуинов как прокси AME (древних ближневосточников)
не, эти расчеты были еще до недавних AME, хотя, может быть это и правда какая-то из его интерпретаций, хотя сам Поляко, как я понял, довольно прохладно относится к версиям, где наибольший процент вклада мезолитчиков обнаруживают иные европейцы, не восточные=))

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #892 : 26 Август 2014, 16:14:27 »
Что-то украинцы далеко от галичанина

Он, если не ошибаюсь, бойко. Небольшой этнос-изолят, потомки белых хорватов червенских городов. Естественно, что он должен отличаться от остальных украинцев, в т.ч. и от большинства галичан. Насколько я понимаю, галичане в большей степени микст из древлян и волынян.

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #893 : 28 Август 2014, 15:52:42 »
По данным Srkz опять куда-то в Украину))
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian-East @ 4,846036
2 Russian-West @ 4,93837
3 Ukrainian-Center @ 5,032669
4 Russian-South @ 5,805631
5 Belarusian-East @ 6,030657
6 Russian-Meshtchyora @ 6,209552
7 Russian-North-West @ 6,946402
8 Russian-Upper-Volga @ 8,030273
9 Ukrainian-West @ 8,224585
10 Russian-North @ 10,538441
11 Erzya @ 10,548299
12 Moksha @ 10,693835
13 Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 15,774057
14 Latvian @ 16,342183
15 Russian-Ural @ 16,839944
16 Finnish-South-West @ 18,499998
17 Finnish-East @ 19,422665
18 Tatar-Mishar @ 20,852641
19 Tatar-Lithuanian @ 23,695016
20 Tatar-Kazan @ 24,284358
30 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center @ 4,038654
2 Russian-West+Ukrainian-East @ 4,179573
3 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,305393
4 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-East @ 4,430873
5 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center @ 4,466765
6 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center @ 4,500492
7 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,512166
8 Russian-North-West+Russian-South @ 4,626724
9 Belarusian-East+Russian-South @ 4,640187
10 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-West @ 4,652757
11 Russian-South+Russian-West @ 4,692033
12 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 4,74124
13 Russian-South+Ukrainian-East @ 4,753468
14 Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,846036
15 Russian-Meshtchyora+Ukrainian-East @ 4,850593
16 Russian-West+Ukrainian-West @ 4,861568
17 Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-East @ 4,884309
18 Russian-West+Russian-West @ 4,93837
19 Russian-Meshtchyora+Ukrainian-Center @ 4,946311
20 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,032669
465 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ukrainian-East +25% Russian-North-West +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 3,8666
2 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Russian-North-West +25% Ukrainian-East @ 3,916185
3 50% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-East @ 3,927137
4 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-East @ 3,975781
5 50% Ukrainian-East +25% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 3,983202
6 50% Ukrainian-East +25% Russian-North-West +25% Russian-South @ 4,027525
7 50% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 4,038654
8 50% Ukrainian-East +25% Russian-Upper-Volga +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 4,041708
9 50% Ukrainian-East +25% Russian-North-West +25% Russian-Upper-Volga @ 4,063927
10 50% Ukrainian-East +25% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 4,089493
11 50% Russian-North-West +25% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 4,090124
12 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-East @ 4,10518
13 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Russian-North-West +25% Russian-West @ 4,116437
14 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Russian-Upper-Volga +25% Ukrainian-East @ 4,119143
15 50% Russian-North-West +25% Russian-Upper-Volga +25% Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 4,135899
16 50% Ukrainian-East +25% Russian-North-West +25% Russian-West @ 4,148881
17 50% Ukrainian-East +25% Russian-North-West +25% Ukrainian-West @ 4,154905
18 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Belarusian-East +25% Russian-West @ 4,165894
19 50% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-East +25% Ukrainian-West @ 4,173945
20 50% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-East +25% Ukrainian-East @ 4,179573
12459 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 3,8666
2 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 3,916185
3 Russian-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 3,927137
4 Russian-North-West+Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 3,950323
5 Russian-North-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 3,951172
6 Russian-North-West+Russian-South+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 3,964889
7 Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 3,975781
8 Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 3,983202
9 Russian-North-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 4,016039
10 Russian-North-West+Russian-South+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,027525
11 Belarusian-East+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,034692
12 Russian-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 4,038654
13 Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,041708
14 Russian-North-West+Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,063927
15 Belarusian-East+Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 4,080237
16 Russian-Upper-Volga+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,08868
17 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,089493
18 Russian-North-West+Russian-North-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 4,090124
19 Belarusian-East+Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,091041
20 Russian-Meshtchyora+Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,097712
21 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,10518
22 Russian-North-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 4,116437
23 Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,119143
24 Russian-North-West+Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 4,12138
25 Belarusian-East+Russian-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 4,13267
26 Russian-North-West+Russian-North-West+Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 4,135899
27 Russian-North-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,148881
28 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 4,154905
29 Russian-North-West+Russian-South+Russian-West+Ukrainian-East @ 4,158542
30 Russian-South+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,162781
31 Belarusian-East+Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,163017
32 Belarusian-East+Russian-South+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 4,164509
33 Belarusian-East+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 4,165894
34 Russian-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 4,173945
35 Russian-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,179573
36 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 4,183233
37 Belarusian-East+Russian-North-West+Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 4,183389
38 Russian-North-West+Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 4,184539
39 Russian-North-West+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 4,189754
40 Russian-North-West+Russian-Upper-Volga+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 4,198732
32495 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,269697

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian-Center @ 5,586918
2 Ukrainian-East @ 5,869562
3 Ukrainian-West @ 5,998976
4 Belarusian-East @ 6,009565
5 Russian-North-West @ 6,560069
6 Russian-West @ 6,56028
7 Russian-South @ 6,598046
8 Russian-Meshtchyora @ 6,938065
9 Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 7,343705
10 Erzya @ 7,528784
11 Russian-North @ 7,745698
12 Moksha @ 7,811155
13 Russian-Upper-Volga @ 8,239798
14 Latvian @ 8,382426
15 Russian-Ural @ 8,808507
16 Finnish-South-West @ 8,88855
17 Tatar-Mishar @ 9,401135
18 Tatar-Kazan @ 9,795953
19 Tatar-Lithuanian @ 10,552758
20 Komi @ 10,90998
30 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,586918
2 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,700784
3 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 5,784229
4 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 5,79018
5 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 5,800189
6 Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 5,869562
7 Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,918041
8 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 5,958757
9 Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 5,977624
10 Russian-West+Ukrainian-West @ 5,980648
11 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,996055
12 Ukrainian-West+Ukrainian-West @ 5,998976
13 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East @ 6,009565
14 Russian-West+Ukrainian-East @ 6,054564
15 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-East @ 6,062982
16 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 6,070392
17 Russian-South+Ukrainian-Center @ 6,070901
18 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-West @ 6,084144
19 Ukrainian-Carpathy+Ukrainian-Center @ 6,19446
20 Belarusian-East+Russian-South @ 6,211662
465 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 5,618003
2 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-West @ 5,669012
3 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-West @ 5,689352
4 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-East @ 5,692918
5 50% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 5,700784
6 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 5,723198
7 50% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-West @ 5,740056
8 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-East @ 5,749034
9 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Russian-North-West +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 5,774147
10 50% Ukrainian-West +25% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 5,781729
11 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-East +25% Ukrainian-East @ 5,784229
12 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-East +25% Ukrainian-West @ 5,79001
13 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-West +25% Ukrainian-West @ 5,79018
14 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Russian-West +25% Ukrainian-West @ 5,79042
15 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 5,791503
16 50% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-Carpathy +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 5,799855
17 50% Belarusian-East +25% Ukrainian-West +25% Ukrainian-West @ 5,800189
18 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Belarusian-East +25% Russian-West @ 5,806935
19 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Russian-South +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 5,814639
20 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-Carpathy +25% Ukrainian-Center @ 5,81807
13485 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,586918
2 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,618003
3 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 5,669012
4 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 5,689352
5 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 5,692918
6 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,700784
7 Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,723198
8 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 5,740056
9 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 5,749034
10 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,774147
11 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West+Ukrainian-West @ 5,781729
12 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 5,784229
13 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 5,79001
14 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West+Ukrainian-West @ 5,79018
15 Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 5,79042
16 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Carpathy+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,791503
17 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Carpathy+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,799855
18 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-West+Ukrainian-West @ 5,800189
19 Belarusian-East+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,806935
20 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 5,813131
21 Russian-South+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,814639
22 Ukrainian-Carpathy+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,81807
23 Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 5,82167
24 Latvian+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,824541
25 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 5,826998
26 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,829208
27 Belarusian-East+Russian-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 5,834511
28 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 5,843026
29 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 5,843167
30 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Carpathy @ 5,84491
31 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 5,847127
32 Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East @ 5,848176
33 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 5,850857
34 Latvian+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-West @ 5,85144
35 Belarusian-East+Russian-North-West+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,856329
36 Belarusian-East+Russian-South+Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-Center @ 5,866528
37 Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East @ 5,869562
38 Belarusian-East+Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 5,869646
39 Ukrainian-Center+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-East+Ukrainian-West @ 5,870378
40 Belarusian-East+Ukrainian-West+Ukrainian-West+Ukrainian-West @ 5,870728
40920 iterations.

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #894 : 28 Август 2014, 20:05:07 »
С фэйсбука от В. Веренича:
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I've had to reconsider the design of Ancient_Roots calculator by excluding the uninformative Roma component from K-list and including population_tweaks into reference table.
The beta-release of K17 includes calculator files as well as Oracle R-workspace, based on Dodecad's Oracle (the main function is TOracle() ).

Please read DIYDodecad's page and follow instructions on this page.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6n7iMc2P-yQaWhVWTZkczJtLUk/edit?usp=sharing

In K17, the component labels have been changed to

Caucasian-Basal
Melano-Austronesian
Uralic
Ancestral_East_Siberian
Ancestral_West_Siberian
Ancestral_North_Indian
Ancestral_South_Indian
West_European_HG
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic
South_East_Asian
Archaic_African
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF
Circumpolar
Near-East-Basal
Ancestral_East_European_ANE
African_Sub_Saharian
Amerindian
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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #895 : 28 Август 2014, 22:00:57 »
С фэйсбука от В. Веренича:
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I've had to reconsider the design of Ancient_Roots calculator by excluding the uninformative Roma component from K-list and including population_tweaks into reference table.
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Убрал смущавшего рому, переименовал и немножко изменил остальные компоненты.

Главное отличие  - Roma и South_Central_Asian ушли в новый Ancestral_North_Indian. Остальные изменения минимальны: на десятые и сотые доли)
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 FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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  5.88%  Caucasian-Basal
  0.68%  Melano-Austronesian
  5.93%  Uralic
  0.78%  Ancestral_East_Siber
  1.68%  Ancestral_West_Siber
  4.70%  Ancestral_North_Indi
  0.49%  Ancestral_South_Indi
 14.23%  West_European_HG
  3.20%  Ancestral_Sami-Finni
  1.81%  South_East_Asian
  0.58%  Archaic_African
  5.73%  Ancestral_Mediterran
  0.57%  Circumpolar
  1.34%  Near-East-Basal
 51.84%  Ancestral_East_Europ
  0.49%  African_Sub_Saharian
  0.07%  Amerindian

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #896 : 28 Август 2014, 22:15:41 »
Главное отличие  - Roma и South_Central_Asian ушли в новый Ancestral_North_Indian. Остальные изменения минимальны: на десятые и сотые доли)
Видимо, да. У меня еще 0,3% перескочило из West_European на Кавказ.

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #897 : 29 Август 2014, 12:33:20 »
У меня такой результат получился:
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  5.53%  Caucasian-Basal     
  0.28%  Melano-Austronesian
  7.28%  Uralic             
  0.10%  Ancestral_East_Siber
  0.45%  Ancestral_West_Siber
  3.45%  Ancestral_North_Indi
  0.91%  Ancestral_South_Indi
 12.03%  West_European_HG   
  2.52%  Ancestral_Sami-Finni
  2.05%  South_East_Asian   
  0.00%  Archaic_African     
  9.69%  Ancestral_Mediterran
  0.01%  Circumpolar         
  2.17%  Near-East-Basal     
 53.16%  Ancestral_East_Europ
  0.28%  African_Sub_Saharian
  0.10%  Amerindian         

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #898 : 29 Август 2014, 17:24:36 »
Главное отличие  - Roma и South_Central_Asian ушли в новый Ancestral_North_Indian.
Я думаю, что  название Северо-индийская примесь не отражает источника этой примеси.
Как известно, Вадим, как и все мы, интересуемся, прежде всего в источниках примесей, проникших в популяцию Восточной Европы.

1. Как известно, какие бы то ни было минимальные миграции населения из Индии в Восточную Европу не были зафиксированы.
2.
а. Очень неплохо зафиксированы миграции ариоязычного населения в Северную Индию.
б. Трудно найти причины, чтобы не считать ариоязычное население Степи не оставило своего наследия и в популяциях, проживающих в Восточной Европе.

Следовательно, говоря об этой примеси, скорее можно говорить об арийском/скифском/сакском источнике этой примеси. То есть, о той древней степной компоненте, которую мы и искали.

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Re: Проект Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae
« Ответ #899 : 05 Сентябрь 2014, 13:05:53 »
Подскажите, почему так на запад сносит, здесь я почти немец.
MDLP Ancient Roots K17 Oracle results:
#   Population   Percent
1    Ancestral_East_European_ANE    64.31
2    Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF    10.77
3    West_European_HG    9.36
4    Uralic    4.03
5    Caucasian-Basal    3.44
6    Ancestral_Sami-Finnic    2.8
7    Ancestral_West_Siberian    1.17
8    Circumpolar    1.06
9    Ancestral_North_Indian    1.03
10    Ancestral_South_Indian    0.9
11    Ancestral_East_Siberian    0.55
12    African_Sub_Saharian    0.38
13    Melano-Austronesian    0.17
14    South_East_Asian    0.01

Single Population Sharing:

#   Population (source)   Distance
1    German    6.67
2    Slovak    7.13
3    Ukranian    7.67
4    Mixed_CEU    7.81
5    Czech    8.04
6    Sorbs    8.15
7    Don_cossack    8.18
8    Ukrainian    9.15
9    Mixed_East_Slav    9.56
10    Pole    9.75
11    South-Russian    10.44
12    Mordovian    10.89
13    Croatian    11.4
14    Russian    11.64
15    Pole    11.82
16    West-Belarusian    12.11
17    Slovenian    12.67
18    Mordovian    12.78
19    Center-Russian    12.97
20    East-Belarusian    13.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#       Primary Population (source)    Secondary Population (source)    Distance
1        61.8%   German    +    38.2%   South-Russian    @    2.1
2        67.1%   German    +    32.9%   Center-Russian    @    2.27
3        71.2%   South-Russian    +    28.8%   Icelandic    @    2.31
4        65.1%   German    +    34.9%   Pole    @    2.45
5        59.9%   German    +    40.1%   Mixed_East_Slav    @    2.49
6        58.8%   German    +    41.2%   Ukrainian    @    2.53
7        65.8%   German    +    34.2%   West-Belarusian    @    2.55
8        59.9%   Czech    +    40.1%   Russian    @    2.59
9        73.2%   South-Russian    +    26.8%   N._European    @    2.61
10        68.9%   German    +    31.1%   Belarusian    @    2.64
11        68.4%   German    +    31.6%   East-Belarusian    @    2.66
12        55.9%   German    +    44.1%   Don_cossack    @    2.71
13        68.4%   Center-Russian    +    31.6%   Icelandic    @    2.71
14        73.1%   South-Russian    +    26.9%   Belgian    @    2.78
15        70.5%   Pole    +    29.5%   Icelandic    @    2.79
16        74.2%   Ukrainian    +    25.8%   Icelandic    @    2.8
17        54.1%   German    +    45.9%   Ukranian    @    2.8
18        63.4%   Slovak    +    36.6%   Russian    @    2.89
19        73.5%   German    +    26.5%   Lithuanian    @    2.96
20        62.5%   Czech    +    37.5%   Mordovian    @    2.97
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Slovak @ 6.735064
2 German @ 7.493529
3 Czech @ 7.903618
4 Mixed_CEU @ 8.444327
5 Ukranian @ 8.492078
6 Sorbs @ 8.759054
7 Don_cossack @ 9.087369
8 Ukrainian @ 10.280195
9 Pole @ 10.628641
10 Mixed_East_Slav @ 10.740671
11 Croatian @ 11.137251
12 Mordovian @ 11.562555
13 South-Russian @ 11.861320
14 Russian @ 12.012992
15 Slovenian @ 12.372169
16 Mordovian @ 12.553722
17 Pole @ 13.210903
18 West-Belarusian @ 13.569296
19 Center-Russian @ 14.444577
20 Hungarian @ 14.839562

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Don_cossack +50% German @ 2.730651


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German +25% Russian +25% Sorbs @ 1.999600


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 N._European + Russian + South-Russian + Ukrainian @ 1.675903
2 N._European + Pole + Russian + Ukrainian @ 1.782137
3 Loshbour + Russian + Serb_Serbia + South-Russian @ 1.821918
4 Mixed_East_Slav + N._European + Russian + South-Russian @ 1.822215
5 N._European + Russian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.827696
6 Mixed_East_Slav + N._European + Pole + Russian @ 1.839863
7 N._European + Russian + South-Russian + South-Russian @ 1.845545
8 Mixed_East_Slav + N._European + Russian + Ukrainian @ 1.847098
9 Center-Russian + N._European + Russian + Ukrainian @ 1.851910
10 Belgian + Russian + South-Russian + Ukrainian @ 1.860909
11 N._European + Russian + Ukrainian + West-Belarusian @ 1.861574
12 Croatian + Lithuanian + Mixed_European + Russian @ 1.905844
13 Croatian + Mixed_CEU + Russian + Sorbs @ 1.919876
14 Belgian + Mixed_East_Slav + Russian + South-Russian @ 1.925324
15 Belgian + Russian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.931483
16 Belgian + Mixed_East_Slav + Russian + Ukrainian @ 1.931699
17 Belarusian + N._European + Russian + Ukrainian @ 1.935853
18 N._European + Pole + Russian + South-Russian @ 1.942268
19 Center-Russian + Croatian + North_German + Russian @ 1.967099
20 Center-Russian + Croatian + Mixed_European + Russian @ 1.967108

 

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