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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1080 : 31 Март 2014, 23:42:26 »
А на Гедматче его нет еще? Как Вы считали?

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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1081 : 03 Апрель 2014, 10:06:45 »
Прогоните меня, пожалуйста, по Ораклу, поскольку у меня вылетает прога.

K13

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1   Baltic   34.92
2   North_Atlantic   26.87
3   West_Med   15.12
4   East_Med   15.09
5   West_Asian   5
6   East_Asian   0.88
7   Northeast_African   0.67
8   Amerindian   0.52
9   Siberian   0.4
10   Red_Sea   0.32
11   Oceanian   0.22
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1   Atlantic   21.87
2   Baltic   21.67
3   Eastern_Euro   16.3
4   North_Sea   13.34
5   West_Med   9.6
6   East_Med   9.59
7   West_Asian   5.89
8   Red_Sea   0.77
9   Northeast_African   0.5
10   Southeast_Asian   0.35
11   Amerindian   0.1
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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1082 : 03 Апрель 2014, 16:07:07 »
galychanyn

K13v2
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 6,860456
2 Moldavian @ 7,886959
3 Hungarian @ 8,974471
4 Serbian @ 9,469107
5 South_Polish @ 12,745112
6 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 12,862446
7 Ukrainian @ 13,268209
8 Romanian @ 13,403067
9 Austrian @ 13,759909
10 East_German @ 14,04709
11 Bulgarian @ 15,384614
12 Polish @ 16,578473
13 Southwest_Russian @ 16,859848
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 17,684521
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 18,862002
16 Estonian_Polish @ 18,94036
17 Belorussian @ 19,403739
18 West_German @ 21,725138
19 Kargopol_Russian @ 21,87295
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 22,250612
203 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Estonian+Greek_Thessaly @ 5,147771
2 Lithuanian+Tuscan @ 5,175736
3 Bulgarian+Polish @ 5,487697
4 Bulgarian+South_Polish @ 5,554689
5 Belorussian+Bulgarian @ 5,558711
6 Greek_Thessaly+Lithuanian @ 5,599469
7 Romanian+Ukrainian @ 5,613241
8 Bulgarian+Ukrainian @ 5,630343
9 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish @ 5,695438
10 Belorussian+Greek_Thessaly @ 5,751933
11 Romanian+South_Polish @ 5,810774
12 Serbian+Ukrainian @ 5,829958
13 Polish+Romanian @ 6,054319
14 Estonian_Polish+Romanian @ 6,10489
15 Belorussian+Romanian @ 6,122403
16 Serbian+South_Polish @ 6,143397
17 Croatian+Serbian @ 6,162834
18 Estonian_Polish+Greek_Thessaly @ 6,167588
19 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk @ 6,306154
20 Lithuanian+West_Sicilian @ 6,406732
20706 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% Tuscan @ 4,380741
2 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% North_Italian @ 4,42042
3 50% Lithuanian +25% Ashkenazi +25% North_Italian @ 4,484573
4 50% South_Polish +25% Estonian_Polish +25% Italian_Jewish @ 4,502134
5 50% South_Polish +25% Belorussian +25% Italian_Jewish @ 4,536585
6 50% Ukrainian +25% Belorussian +25% Italian_Jewish @ 4,538406
7 50% Ukrainian +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Polish @ 4,558225
8 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Bulgarian +25% North_Italian @ 4,566408
9 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Bulgarian +25% Tuscan @ 4,570463
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Tuscan @ 4,598564
11 50% South_Polish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Ukrainian @ 4,607201
12 50% Belorussian +25% Romanian +25% Tuscan @ 4,60731
13 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% North_Italian @ 4,612275
14 50% Polish +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Ukrainian @ 4,61729
15 50% South_Polish +25% Algerian_Jewish +25% Belorussian @ 4,641798
16 50% Estonian_Polish +25% East_German +25% Italian_Jewish @ 4,647104
17 50% Ukrainian +25% Estonian_Polish +25% Italian_Jewish @ 4,656858
18 50% Ukrainian +25% Ashkenazi +25% South_Polish @ 4,680593
19 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Serbian +25% Tuscan @ 4,691963
20 50% Polish +25% Italian_Jewish +25% South_Polish @ 4,695041
1664649 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Lithuanian+Tuscan @ 4,34499
2 Belorussian+Belorussian+Bulgarian+Tuscan @ 4,380741
3 Belorussian+Belorussian+Bulgarian+North_Italian @ 4,42042
4 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Lithuanian+Tuscan @ 4,427215
5 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Tuscan @ 4,445148
6 Belorussian+Italian_Jewish+South_Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,446217
7 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+North_Italian @ 4,462671
8 Ashkenazi+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 4,484573
9 Estonian_Polish+Italian_Jewish+South_Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,489739
10 Estonian_Polish+Italian_Jewish+South_Polish+South_Polish @ 4,502134
11 Belorussian+Italian_Jewish+South_Polish+South_Polish @ 4,536585
12 Belorussian+Italian_Jewish+Ukrainian+Ukrainian @ 4,538406
13 Italian_Jewish+Polish+South_Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,555038
14 Italian_Jewish+Polish+Ukrainian+Ukrainian @ 4,558225
15 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+North_Italian @ 4,566408
16 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Tuscan @ 4,570463
17 Belorussian+Greek_Thessaly+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 4,582654
18 Greek_Thessaly+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Tuscan @ 4,598564
19 Ashkenazi+South_Polish+South_Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,607201
20 Belorussian+Belorussian+Romanian+Tuscan @ 4,60731
21 Belorussian+Bulgarian+North_Italian+Southwest_Russian @ 4,608359
22 Ashkenazi+East_German+Estonian_Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,611466
23 Greek_Thessaly+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 4,612275
24 Italian_Jewish+Polish+Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,61729
25 Belorussian+Estonian_Polish+Romanian+Tuscan @ 4,621421
26 Ashkenazi+Belorussian+East_German+Ukrainian @ 4,632136
27 Algerian_Jewish+Belorussian+South_Polish+South_Polish @ 4,641798
28 Estonian_Polish+Italian_Jewish+Polish+South_Polish @ 4,646419
29 East_German+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Italian_Jewish @ 4,647104
30 East_German+Italian_Jewish+Lithuanian+Ukrainian @ 4,652924
31 Estonian_Polish+Italian_Jewish+Ukrainian+Ukrainian @ 4,656858
32 Ashkenazi+South_Polish+Ukrainian+Ukrainian @ 4,680593
33 Belorussian+Italian_Jewish+Polish+South_Polish @ 4,680742
34 Belorussian+Lithuanian+Romanian+Tuscan @ 4,682801
35 Belorussian+Italian_Jewish+Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,688767
36 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Serbian+Tuscan @ 4,691963
37 Belorussian+Estonian_Polish+Serbian+Tuscan @ 4,692389
38 Italian_Jewish+Polish+Polish+South_Polish @ 4,695041
39 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Romanian+Tuscan @ 4,695648
40 Estonian+Italian_Jewish+South_Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,695716
8108606 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,384776

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 5,773443
2 Serbian @ 5,797882
3 Hungarian @ 5,803892
4 Austrian @ 6,155613
5 Moldavian @ 6,629166
6 Romanian @ 6,664096
7 South_Polish @ 6,88847
8 Bulgarian @ 6,890003
9 East_German @ 6,923139
10 Ukrainian @ 7,32893
11 West_German @ 8,093635
12 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8,199391
13 Southwest_Russian @ 8,221425
14 South_Dutch @ 8,405166
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8,612583
16 French @ 8,972696
17 Belorussian @ 9,061284
18 Polish @ 9,365757
19 Estonian_Polish @ 9,37442
20 Southeast_English @ 9,65727
203 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian+South_Polish @ 5,235226
2 Belorussian+North_Italian @ 5,286243
3 Bulgarian+Polish @ 5,336581
4 Romanian+South_Polish @ 5,343754
5 Serbian+South_Polish @ 5,364287
6 Belorussian+Bulgarian @ 5,372273
7 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 5,381612
8 Bulgarian+Ukrainian @ 5,428394
9 North_Italian+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,446848
10 Croatian+Serbian @ 5,46979
11 Romanian+Ukrainian @ 5,483403
12 Serbian+Ukrainian @ 5,492963
13 North_Italian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,503702
14 North_Italian+Polish @ 5,50685
15 Estonian_Polish+North_Italian @ 5,508882
16 Austrian+Serbian @ 5,514619
17 Belorussian+Romanian @ 5,537582
18 Bulgarian+East_German @ 5,543652
19 Polish+Romanian @ 5,55604
20 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,558133
20706 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% North_Italian @ 5,150437
2 50% Bulgarian +25% Austrian +25% Belorussian @ 5,222879
3 50% Bulgarian +25% South_Polish +25% South_Polish @ 5,235226
4 50% Bulgarian +25% Austrian +25% Lithuanian @ 5,237671
5 50% Belorussian +25% North_Italian +25% Romanian @ 5,24128
6 50% South_Polish +25% Bulgarian +25% Serbian @ 5,242363
7 50% Belorussian +25% North_Italian +25% Serbian @ 5,251928
8 50% South_Polish +25% Bulgarian +25% North_Italian @ 5,262818
9 50% Polish +25% Bulgarian +25% North_Italian @ 5,26326
10 50% Bulgarian +25% Belorussian +25% South_Polish @ 5,267652
11 50% Bulgarian +25% Belorussian +25% East_German @ 5,268553
12 50% Bulgarian +25% Austrian +25% Polish @ 5,26958
13 50% Bulgarian +25% Polish +25% South_Polish @ 5,272374
14 50% South_Polish +25% Bulgarian +25% Romanian @ 5,284945
15 50% South_Polish +25% North_Italian +25% Serbian @ 5,285095
16 50% Belorussian +25% North_Italian +25% North_Italian @ 5,286243
17 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% Tuscan @ 5,294111
18 50% Bulgarian +25% East_German +25% Lithuanian @ 5,299386
19 50% North_Italian +25% Belorussian +25% Lithuanian @ 5,304247
20 50% Bulgarian +25% Austrian +25% South_Polish @ 5,308595
4182612 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belorussian+Belorussian+Bulgarian+North_Italian @ 5,150437
2 Belorussian+Bulgarian+North_Italian+South_Polish @ 5,166438
3 Bulgarian+Lithuanian+North_Italian+South_Polish @ 5,192396
4 Belorussian+Bulgarian+North_Italian+Polish @ 5,202817
5 Austrian+Belorussian+Bulgarian+Bulgarian @ 5,222879
6 Belorussian+North_Italian+Serbian+South_Polish @ 5,226228
7 Austrian+Belorussian+Bulgarian+Serbian @ 5,228206
8 Belorussian+Bulgarian+North_Italian+Ukrainian @ 5,229687
9 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 5,23403
10 Bulgarian+Bulgarian+South_Polish+South_Polish @ 5,235226
11 Austrian+Bulgarian+Bulgarian+Lithuanian @ 5,237671
12 Belorussian+North_Italian+Romanian+South_Polish @ 5,239471
13 Belorussian+Belorussian+North_Italian+Romanian @ 5,24128
14 Belorussian+Bulgarian+North_Italian+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,241783
15 Bulgarian+Serbian+South_Polish+South_Polish @ 5,242363
16 Bulgarian+North_Italian+Polish+South_Polish @ 5,244047
17 Belorussian+Belorussian+North_Italian+Serbian @ 5,251928
18 Bulgarian+North_Italian+South_Polish+South_Polish @ 5,262818
19 Bulgarian+North_Italian+Polish+Polish @ 5,26326
20 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+North_Italian @ 5,266367
21 Belorussian+North_Italian+Serbian+Ukrainian @ 5,26719
22 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Bulgarian+South_Polish @ 5,267652
23 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Bulgarian+East_German @ 5,268553
24 Austrian+Bulgarian+Bulgarian+Polish @ 5,26958
25 Bulgarian+Lithuanian+North_Italian+Ukrainian @ 5,270328
26 Bulgarian+Lithuanian+North_Italian+Polish @ 5,27045
27 Bulgarian+Bulgarian+Polish+South_Polish @ 5,272374
28 Bulgarian+North_Italian+Russian_Smolensk+South_Polish @ 5,272661
29 Austrian+Bulgarian+Serbian+South_Polish @ 5,275823
30 Austrian+Bulgarian+Polish+Serbian @ 5,27991
31 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+North_Italian+South_Polish @ 5,283407
32 Belorussian+Bulgarian+North_Italian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,284849
33 Bulgarian+Romanian+South_Polish+South_Polish @ 5,284945
34 North_Italian+Serbian+South_Polish+South_Polish @ 5,285095
35 Belorussian+Belorussian+North_Italian+North_Italian @ 5,286243
36 Belorussian+North_Italian+Romanian+Ukrainian @ 5,286534
37 Lithuanian+North_Italian+Romanian+South_Polish @ 5,291177
38 Bulgarian+North_Italian+Polish+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,291353
39 North_Italian+Polish+Serbian+South_Polish @ 5,292903
40 Austrian+Belorussian+Bulgarian+Romanian @ 5,29294
72867865 iterations.

k15v2
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 7,797822
2 Austrian @ 9,079092
3 Moldavian @ 10,846268
4 Serbian @ 11,369306
5 Hungarian @ 12,665833
6 Romanian @ 13,287122
7 South_Polish @ 13,468806
8 Russian_Smolensk @ 14,391752
9 Bulgarian @ 14,658698
10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 14,941223
11 Polish @ 15,036882
12 Ukrainian @ 15,254337
13 East_German @ 15,71612
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 15,789526
15 Southwest_Russian @ 16,145503
16 Estonian_Polish @ 17,01432
17 Belorussian @ 17,191813
18 Kargopol_Russian @ 19,536501
19 Southwest_Finnish @ 20,472457
20 La_Brana-1 @ 21,171176
206 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk @ 6,264434
2 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish @ 6,312504
3 Estonian_Polish+Greek @ 6,593393
4 Bulgarian+Polish @ 6,684713
5 Belorussian+Bulgarian @ 6,757789
6 Romanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 6,970075
7 Belorussian+Greek @ 6,982668
8 Estonian_Polish+Romanian @ 7,213249
9 Estonian_Polish+Tuscan @ 7,250063
10 Greek+Russian_Smolensk @ 7,357212
11 Russian_Smolensk+Serbian @ 7,369132
12 Bulgarian+Southwest_Russian @ 7,431679
13 Estonian_Polish+North_Italian @ 7,446092
14 Austrian+Croatian @ 7,470775
15 Greek+Polish @ 7,494979
16 Lithuanian+Tuscan @ 7,548486
17 Belorussian+Tuscan @ 7,576771
18 Belorussian+North_Italian @ 7,581999
19 North_Italian+Southwest_Russian @ 7,599965
20 Belorussian+Romanian @ 7,633601
21321 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 4,907294
2 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Austrian +25% West_Sicilian @ 4,918263
3 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Austrian +25% Greek @ 4,963849
4 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Austrian +25% West_Sicilian @ 4,987442
5 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,045953
6 50% Southwest_Russian +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 5,049225
7 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,067475
8 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5,08193
9 50% Southwest_Russian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5,088967
10 50% Southwest_Russian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,12894
11 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 5,153353
12 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5,158947
13 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,16818
14 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 5,172045
15 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5,179905
16 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 5,202787
17 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,214915
18 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5,219475
19 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,231931
20 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5,233416
2035716 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian+Estonian_Polish+Russian_Smolensk+West_Sicilian @ 4,869322
2 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Greek+Spanish_Valencia @ 4,907294
3 Austrian+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+West_Sicilian @ 4,918263
4 Belorussian+Estonian_Polish+Greek+Spanish_Valencia @ 4,960675
5 Estonian_Polish+Greek+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Valencia @ 4,963814
6 Austrian+Greek+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,963849
7 Estonian_Polish+Greek+Lithuanian+Spanish_Valencia @ 4,969383
8 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Spanish_Valencia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,969943
9 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Andalucia @ 4,974072
10 Estonian_Polish+Greek+Southwest_French+Southwest_Russian @ 4,977407
11 Estonian_Polish+Greek+Southwest_French+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,978983
12 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Spanish_Andalucia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,981979
13 Austrian+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Smolensk+West_Sicilian @ 4,987442
14 Belorussian+Greek+Southwest_French+Southwest_Russian @ 4,988189
15 Belorussian+Greek+Southwest_French+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,994271
16 Greek+Lithuanian+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Valencia @ 4,995289
17 Estonian_Polish+Greek+Spanish_Valencia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,002179
18 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Valencia @ 5,01131
19 Greek+Lithuanian+Spanish_Valencia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,016965
20 Estonian_Polish+Greek+Lithuanian+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,026897
21 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Greek+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,045953
22 Austrian+Estonian_Polish+Greek+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,04608
23 Greek+Southwest_French+Southwest_Russian+Southwest_Russian @ 5,049225
24 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,050778
25 Belorussian+Greek+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Valencia @ 5,051993
26 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Spanish_Andalucia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,063012
27 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Valencia @ 5,065827
28 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,067475
29 Erzya+French_Basque+Greek+Lithuanian @ 5,068103
30 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish+Russian_Smolensk+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,069967
31 Belorussian+Estonian_Polish+Greek+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,073499
32 Belorussian+Bulgarian+Spanish_Valencia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,07566
33 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk+Spanish_Valencia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,079731
34 Belorussian+Belorussian+Greek+Spanish_Valencia @ 5,08193
35 Greek+Lithuanian+Southwest_French+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,088094
36 Bulgarian+Southwest_Russian+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Valencia @ 5,088967
37 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,092339
38 Belorussian+Greek+Spanish_Valencia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,094114
39 Bulgarian+Southwest_Russian+Spanish_Valencia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,101462
40 Greek+Lithuanian+Southwest_French+Southwest_Russian @ 5,102776
11283553 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,33296

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 4,79991
2 Croatian @ 5,204579
3 Serbian @ 5,902677
4 Hungarian @ 6,190281
5 Romanian @ 6,908237
6 Moldavian @ 6,991894
7 Bulgarian @ 7,292228
8 East_German @ 7,335762
9 South_Polish @ 7,392501
10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8,166935
11 Ukrainian @ 8,286257
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8,76647
13 Russian_Smolensk @ 8,865831
14 South_Dutch @ 9,023232
15 Southwest_Russian @ 9,220424
16 West_German @ 9,541233
17 North_German @ 9,721882
18 Greek @ 9,777502
19 Polish @ 9,881417
20 Belorussian @ 10,051199
206 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian+Polish @ 4,771378
2 Belorussian+North_Italian @ 4,797984
3 Austrian+Austrian @ 4,79991
4 Belorussian+Greek @ 4,799915
5 Belorussian+Bulgarian @ 4,833335
6 Austrian+Croatian @ 4,861643
7 Greek+Polish @ 4,868652
8 Polish+Serbian @ 4,878068
9 Belorussian+Serbian @ 4,899575
10 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 4,906873
11 Polish+Romanian @ 4,939438
12 Russian_Smolensk+Serbian @ 4,967585
13 Greek+Lithuanian @ 4,970162
14 Belorussian+Romanian @ 4,987838
15 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,018283
16 Estonian_Polish+Greek @ 5,024027
17 Bulgarian+Estonian_Polish @ 5,025509
18 Serbian+South_Polish @ 5,028842
19 Belorussian+Tuscan @ 5,051681
20 Estonian_Polish+North_Italian @ 5,075811
21321 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish +25% Austrian +25% Greek @ 4,297156
2 50% Belorussian +25% Austrian +25% Greek @ 4,303275
3 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 4,350448
4 50% Austrian +25% Belorussian +25% Greek @ 4,363831
5 50% Austrian +25% Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 4,394951
6 50% Belorussian +25% French_Basque +25% Greek @ 4,39863
7 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Austrian +25% Greek @ 4,477698
8 50% Belorussian +25% East_German +25% Greek @ 4,492131
9 50% Belorussian +25% Austrian +25% Tuscan @ 4,49353
10 50% Austrian +25% Estonian_Polish +25% Greek @ 4,494004
11 50% Austrian +25% Greek +25% Polish @ 4,503052
12 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 4,506553
13 50% Lithuanian +25% French_Basque +25% Greek @ 4,517254
14 50% Polish +25% East_German +25% Greek @ 4,51789
15 50% Austrian +25% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian @ 4,524913
16 50% Polish +25% Croatian +25% Greek @ 4,528705
17 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Serbian @ 4,530408
18 50% Polish +25% Greek +25% Polish @ 4,530589
19 50% Belorussian +25% North_Italian +25% Serbian @ 4,538448
20 50% Austrian +25% Greek +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 4,545059
4368942 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian+Belorussian+Greek+Polish @ 4,289603
2 Austrian+Greek+Polish+Polish @ 4,297156
3 Austrian+Belorussian+Belorussian+Greek @ 4,303275
4 Belorussian+Belorussian+Greek+Southwest_French @ 4,350448
5 Austrian+Austrian+Belorussian+Greek @ 4,363831
6 Austrian+Belorussian+Greek+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,386279
7 Austrian+Greek+Polish+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,393451
8 Austrian+Austrian+Greek+Lithuanian @ 4,394951
9 Belorussian+Belorussian+French_Basque+Greek @ 4,39863
10 Austrian+Belorussian+Greek+South_Polish @ 4,402763
11 Belorussian+Greek+Lithuanian+Southwest_French @ 4,412762
12 Austrian+Greek+Lithuanian+Polish @ 4,421542
13 Austrian+Estonian_Polish+Greek+Polish @ 4,435142
14 Austrian+Belorussian+Estonian_Polish+Greek @ 4,44103
15 Belorussian+French_Basque+Greek+Lithuanian @ 4,442684
16 Austrian+Greek+Polish+South_Polish @ 4,454899
17 Austrian+Belorussian+Greek+Lithuanian @ 4,477019
18 Austrian+Greek+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,477698
19 Belorussian+Greek+Polish+Southwest_French @ 4,480387
20 Austrian+Belorussian+East_German+Greek @ 4,480526
21 French_Basque+Greek+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,480543
22 Belorussian+Greek+Russian_Smolensk+Southwest_French @ 4,482606
23 Belorussian+French_Basque+Greek+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,48714
24 Belorussian+Greek+Southwest_French+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,490515
25 Belorussian+Belorussian+East_German+Greek @ 4,492131
26 Austrian+Belorussian+Belorussian+Tuscan @ 4,49353
27 Austrian+Austrian+Estonian_Polish+Greek @ 4,494004
28 Belorussian+East_German+Greek+Polish @ 4,496173
29 Austrian+Austrian+Greek+Polish @ 4,503052
30 Greek+Lithuanian+Polish+Southwest_French @ 4,503417
31 Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Southwest_French @ 4,506553
32 Greek+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk+Southwest_French @ 4,508882
33 Austrian+Estonian_Polish+Greek+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,509193
34 Greek+Lithuanian+Southwest_French+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,512912
35 Belorussian+Estonian_Polish+Greek+Southwest_French @ 4,5152
36 French_Basque+Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 4,517254
37 East_German+Greek+Polish+Polish @ 4,51789
38 Austrian+Greek+Russian_Smolensk+South_Polish @ 4,521553
39 Austrian+Greek+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,524429
40 Austrian+Austrian+Belorussian+Bulgarian @ 4,524913
76850796 iterations.



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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1083 : 03 Апрель 2014, 17:43:06 »
Я вот сравнил результаты свои( центр.вост. украинец) и Галичанина,то вот по этим калькуляторам, мы разные народы ???, я не сильно во всем этом разбираюсь, но похоже центр. и вост. украинцы более славянистые, если не прав, то поправте.

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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1084 : 03 Апрель 2014, 18:41:25 »
Я вот сравнил результаты свои( центр.вост. украинец) и Галичанина,то вот по этим калькуляторам, мы разные народы ???
Галичанин из карпатских горцев (бойко).

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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1085 : 03 Апрель 2014, 19:05:44 »
Цитировать
Я вот сравнил результаты свои( центр.вост. украинец) и Галичанина,то вот по этим калькуляторам, мы разные народы ??? , я не сильно во всем этом разбираюсь, но похоже центр. и вост. украинцы более славянистые, если не прав, то поправте.

Усредненные данные по популяциям (Этноплот на основе Eurogenes K15v2):


http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p217/dpwes/Eurogenes_K15_MDS-1.png~original

Я немного южнее и восточнее хорватов. Как видно, мой результат не типичный для украинцев Львовской области. Это можно объяснить уникальной историей заселения той части Карпат, где я родился. В 15-16 веке здесь имели место ряд колонизационных потоков, главный из которых исходил из Трансильвании.

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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1086 : 03 Апрель 2014, 22:15:09 »
меня в поляки отнесло

k13v2
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Polish @ 4,527582
2 Ukrainian @ 5,742065
3 South_Polish @ 5,928514
4 Russian_Smolensk @ 6,447866
5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6,551986
6 Estonian_Polish @ 6,904109
7 Belorussian @ 7,516919
8 Southwest_Russian @ 7,770831
9 Kargopol_Russian @ 8,455118
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8,496433
11 Estonian @ 8,736638
12 Finnish @ 9,575643
13 Southwest_Finnish @ 9,942081
14 East_Finnish @ 10,642224
15 Lithuanian @ 10,912984
16 Erzya @ 13,023
17 Croatian @ 13,055347
18 East_German @ 15,589043
19 Hungarian @ 15,761505
20 Moldavian @ 16,46698
203 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Estonian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,613016
2 Finnish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,784545
3 Finnish+Ukrainian @ 4,06814
4 Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish @ 4,078594
5 Estonian+South_Polish @ 4,147805
6 Croatian+Estonian @ 4,164087
7 Estonian+Ukrainian @ 4,173549
8 Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian @ 4,261178
9 Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,300695
10 East_Finnish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,389697
11 East_Finnish+South_Polish @ 4,405018
12 Croatian+East_Finnish @ 4,456877
13 Polish+Polish @ 4,527582
14 Finnish+South_Polish @ 4,560796
15 Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,579994
16 Polish+Ukrainian @ 4,637612
17 Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 4,651468
18 Southwest_Finnish+Southwest_Russian @ 4,694799
19 East_Finnish+Ukrainian @ 4,707993
20 Polish+South_Polish @ 4,725223
20706 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% South_Dutch @ 2,485147
2 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% West_German @ 2,597653
3 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Polish @ 2,597733
4 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Estonian @ 2,629306
5 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Austrian +25% Estonian @ 2,730818
6 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% North_Swedish +25% Ukrainian @ 2,858669
7 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 2,866934
8 50% Ukrainian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 2,883766
9 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Estonian_Polish +25% North_German @ 2,893652
10 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Belorussian +25% East_German @ 2,925839
11 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Estonian_Polish @ 2,926057
12 50% Erzya +25% Lithuanian +25% Southwest_English @ 2,933486
13 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% North_Swedish +25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,935665
14 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% South_Dutch @ 2,937105
15 50% Ukrainian_Lviv +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 2,941666
16 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% West_German @ 2,957989
17 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% Southeast_English @ 2,977855
18 50% Ukrainian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% North_Swedish @ 2,98076
19 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Swedish +25% Ukrainian @ 2,986408
20 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% North_German @ 2,998233
1159316 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+South_Dutch @ 2,485147
2 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian @ 2,560147
3 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 2,593115
4 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+West_German @ 2,597653
5 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 2,597733
6 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian @ 2,629306
7 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 2,636633
8 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,680979
9 East_Finnish+East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 2,681465
10 East_German+Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 2,717986
11 Erzya+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southeast_English @ 2,724686
12 Austrian+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian @ 2,730818
13 East_Finnish+East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian @ 2,801223
14 Kargopol_Russian+Polish+Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,804094
15 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Polish @ 2,806595
16 Erzya+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+South_Dutch @ 2,80946
17 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2,809516
18 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Russian @ 2,810012
19 Kargopol_Russian+North_Swedish+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian @ 2,815417
20 East_German+Erzya+Estonian+Polish @ 2,821426
21 Erzya+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southwest_English @ 2,826284
22 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian @ 2,827237
23 Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,832068
24 Austrian+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 2,83486
25 East_Finnish+East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 2,845402
26 Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish+Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,856201
27 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+North_Swedish+Ukrainian @ 2,85798
28 Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish+Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian @ 2,858489
29 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+North_Swedish+Ukrainian @ 2,858669
30 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 2,866934
31 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+North_Swedish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,868246
32 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+South_Polish @ 2,876627
33 Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian+Ukrainian @ 2,883766
34 East_Finnish+East_German+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,885117
35 Austrian+Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 2,891303
36 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+North_German @ 2,893652
37 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,897333
38 East_German+Finnish+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 2,899401
39 Kargopol_Russian+Polish+Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian @ 2,900611
40 Kargopol_Russian+North_Swedish+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,907289
7239290 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,384776

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kargopol_Russian @ 4,379051
2 Estonian_Polish @ 4,412299
3 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,479658
4 Ukrainian @ 4,503303
5 Estonian @ 4,635443
6 Lithuanian @ 4,938821
7 Belorussian @ 5,087505
8 South_Polish @ 5,09874
9 Southwest_Russian @ 5,160493
10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5,281897
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,65445
12 Southwest_Finnish @ 5,684841
13 Erzya @ 6,035465
14 North_Swedish @ 6,429002
15 Polish @ 6,600038
16 Hungarian @ 7,450421
17 East_Finnish @ 7,555479
18 Finnish @ 7,560812
19 Moldavian @ 7,842589
20 East_German @ 8,091167
203 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Estonian+Ukrainian @ 3,396707
2 Estonian+South_Polish @ 3,485957
3 Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,606739
4 Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish @ 3,626588
5 East_German+Estonian @ 3,65072
6 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,71697
7 Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian @ 3,759086
8 East_German+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,763036
9 Russian_Smolensk+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,825914
10 Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,830825
11 Estonian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,903088
12 Danish+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,918247
13 Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,939678
14 Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 3,947046
15 Estonian+Estonian_Polish @ 3,962609
16 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 3,98469
17 Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian @ 4,018063
18 Danish+Erzya @ 4,046061
19 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 4,09276
20 East_Finnish+East_German @ 4,094479
20706 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% East_German +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 2,992207
2 50% Estonian +25% Danish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3,012179
3 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Estonian +25% Southeast_English @ 3,017166
4 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Danish +25% Estonian @ 3,021188
5 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Danish +25% Lithuanian @ 3,078623
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Danish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3,079948
7 50% Estonian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southeast_English @ 3,08093
8 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% Southeast_English @ 3,082429
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southeast_English @ 3,139705
10 50% Estonian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% South_Polish @ 3,176347
11 50% Estonian +25% Danish +25% Erzya @ 3,180202
12 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Estonian @ 3,18034
13 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Orcadian @ 3,187972
14 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% Orcadian @ 3,190599
15 50% Estonian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Ukrainian @ 3,194661
16 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Estonian +25% Orcadian @ 3,200519
17 50% Estonian +25% Danish +25% Ukrainian @ 3,233568
18 50% Estonian +25% East_German +25% Erzya @ 3,252072
19 50% Lithuanian +25% East_German +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3,262675
20 50% Estonian +25% Erzya +25% Southeast_English @ 3,264313
3727139 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_German+Estonian+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian @ 2,992207
2 Danish+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 2,996116
3 Danish+Estonian+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,012179
4 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Southeast_English @ 3,017166
5 Danish+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,021188
6 Danish+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian @ 3,043605
7 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southeast_English @ 3,064717
8 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 3,071662
9 Danish+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 3,078623
10 Danish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 3,079948
11 Estonian+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Southeast_English @ 3,08093
12 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southeast_English @ 3,082429
13 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Southeast_English @ 3,139705
14 Danish+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,14235
15 Danish+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish @ 3,155186
16 Danish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian @ 3,175548
17 Estonian+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish @ 3,176347
18 Danish+Erzya+Estonian+Estonian @ 3,180202
19 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,18034
20 Danish+Erzya+Estonian+Lithuanian @ 3,186813
21 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 3,187972
22 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 3,190599
23 Estonian+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian @ 3,194661
24 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 3,200215
25 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Orcadian @ 3,200519
26 Danish+Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,209626
27 Danish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,218458
28 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,22346
29 Erzya+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Southeast_English @ 3,230594
30 Danish+Estonian+Estonian+Ukrainian @ 3,233568
31 Danish+Erzya+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,236186
32 Danish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 3,252014
33 East_German+Erzya+Estonian+Estonian @ 3,252072
34 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Southeast_English+Ukrainian @ 3,252778
35 Erzya+Estonian+Lithuanian+Southeast_English @ 3,255424
36 Danish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+South_Polish @ 3,256857
37 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 3,262675
38 Erzya+Estonian+Estonian+Southeast_English @ 3,264313
39 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+North_German @ 3,264902
40 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+West_Scottish @ 3,266632
54352474 iterations.

k15v2
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Polish @ 5,502045
2 South_Polish @ 7,172909
3 Estonian_Polish @ 7,26782
4 Ukrainian @ 7,493323
5 Russian_Smolensk @ 7,524253
6 Kargopol_Russian @ 7,76784
7 Southwest_Russian @ 7,780682
8 Belorussian @ 8,320467
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8,830128
10 Estonian @ 8,902435
11 East_Finnish @ 9,05391
12 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 9,209253
13 Finnish @ 11,265368
14 Southwest_Finnish @ 12,077032
15 Lithuanian @ 12,167616
16 Erzya @ 12,278897
17 Croatian @ 12,699733
18 Hungarian @ 14,957886
19 La_Brana-1 @ 15,215679
20 Moldavian @ 15,241608
206 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 3,895444
2 East_Finnish+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,323226
3 Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish @ 4,339331
4 East_Finnish+Estonian_Polish @ 4,355314
5 East_Finnish+Polish @ 4,543492
6 Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian @ 4,952802
7 Belorussian+East_Finnish @ 4,976554
8 East_Finnish+South_Polish @ 5,032505
9 Estonian_Polish+Finnish @ 5,17381
10 Estonian_Polish+Southwest_Finnish @ 5,29206
11 East_Finnish+Southwest_Russian @ 5,322797
12 East_Finnish+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,359878
13 Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5,393227
14 East_German+Erzya @ 5,395465
15 East_Finnish+Ukrainian @ 5,471719
16 Polish+Polish @ 5,502045
17 Erzya+Southwest_Finnish @ 5,528753
18 Southwest_Finnish+Southwest_Russian @ 5,561731
19 Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,56674
20 Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,619764
21321 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Estonian_Polish @ 3,0927
2 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Belorussian +25% East_German @ 3,341844
3 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Polish @ 3,427928
4 50% Estonian_Polish +25% East_German +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3,457265
5 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Lithuanian @ 3,477431
6 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 3,58665
7 50% Polish +25% East_Finnish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3,600531
8 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 3,628998
9 50% Erzya +25% Estonian_Polish +25% Southwest_English @ 3,636842
10 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% South_Dutch @ 3,656774
11 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% East_German +25% Estonian @ 3,714565
12 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% North_Swedish @ 3,742236
13 50% Estonian_Polish +25% East_Finnish +25% East_German @ 3,749843
14 50% Erzya +25% Estonian_Polish +25% Southeast_English @ 3,763867
15 50% Erzya +25% Lithuanian +25% Southwest_English @ 3,76417
16 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Polish +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 3,775159
17 50% Polish +25% Erzya +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 3,781597
18 50% Erzya +25% Estonian_Polish +25% Irish @ 3,800009
19 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Danish +25% Erzya @ 3,83372
20 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Erzya +25% South_Dutch @ 3,858434
1155123 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_German+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,0927
2 Belorussian+East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,341844
3 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 3,427928
4 East_German+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,457265
5 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 3,477431
6 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Polish+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,484824
7 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian @ 3,498903
8 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,552847
9 East_German+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,58665
10 East_Finnish+Kargopol_Russian+Polish+Polish @ 3,600531
11 East_Finnish+East_German+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,626895
12 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,628998
13 Erzya+Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Southwest_English @ 3,636842
14 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+South_Dutch @ 3,656774
15 Erzya+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southwest_English @ 3,669813
16 Erzya+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+South_Dutch @ 3,672805
17 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,686015
18 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,714565
19 East_German+Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,72274
20 East_Finnish+East_German+Erzya+Estonian_Polish @ 3,726748
21 Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Polish+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,727201
22 Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_English @ 3,734229
23 Kargopol_Russian+Polish+Russian_Smolensk+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,739047
24 East_German+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 3,739261
25 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+North_Swedish @ 3,742236
26 East_Finnish+East_German+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish @ 3,749843
27 East_German+Erzya+Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 3,760998
28 East_Finnish+Kargopol_Russian+Polish+South_Polish @ 3,763412
29 Erzya+Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Southeast_English @ 3,763867
30 Erzya+Erzya+Lithuanian+Southwest_English @ 3,76417
31 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Polish+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,775159
32 Erzya+Polish+Polish+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,781597
33 Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+North_German @ 3,79968
34 Erzya+Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Irish @ 3,800009
35 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,802033
36 East_German+Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,813349
37 Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+South_Dutch @ 3,819957
38 Erzya+Estonian_Polish+South_Polish+Southwest_Finnish @ 3,82373
39 Estonian_Polish+Finnish+Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 3,827806
40 Belorussian+East_German+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 3,828523
6011293 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,33296

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Estonian_Polish @ 4,935404
2 Estonian @ 5,101673
3 Kargopol_Russian @ 5,333522
4 Russian_Smolensk @ 5,429541
5 East_Finnish @ 5,698799
6 Ukrainian @ 5,715202
7 Southwest_Finnish @ 5,774066
8 Southwest_Russian @ 6,07277
9 Belorussian @ 6,118619
10 Lithuanian @ 6,136675
11 South_Polish @ 6,15093
12 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6,28575
13 Finnish @ 6,399068
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6,551203
15 Erzya @ 6,70164
16 Polish @ 7,340407
17 North_Swedish @ 7,35007
18 Hungarian @ 8,045062
19 Moldavian @ 8,166841
20 East_German @ 8,317404
206 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Estonian+Estonian_Polish @ 4,453184
2 Estonian_Polish+Southwest_Finnish @ 4,575058
3 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 4,65005
4 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian @ 4,651755
5 Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish @ 4,673145
6 East_Finnish+Estonian_Polish @ 4,6838
7 Kargopol_Russian+Polish @ 4,689679
8 Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,716631
9 Lithuanian+Southwest_Finnish @ 4,759161
10 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 4,803745
11 Estonian+Ukrainian @ 4,82459
12 Kargopol_Russian+South_Polish @ 4,870896
13 Estonian+South_Polish @ 4,871607
14 Russian_Smolensk+Southwest_Finnish @ 4,89502
15 Kargopol_Russian+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,920168
16 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish @ 4,935404
17 Belorussian+Kargopol_Russian @ 4,954788
18 Kargopol_Russian+Ukrainian @ 4,97024
19 East_Finnish+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,988148
20 Estonian_Polish+North_Swedish @ 4,994123
21321 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Norwegian @ 4,185344
2 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Norwegian @ 4,214877
3 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Orcadian @ 4,268432
4 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% Norwegian @ 4,271781
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southwest_English @ 4,276022
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Danish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 4,296902
7 50% Estonian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Norwegian @ 4,324349
8 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 4,329678
9 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Danish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 4,345434
10 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% Southwest_English @ 4,350089
11 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% West_Norwegian @ 4,352588
12 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southeast_English @ 4,352923
13 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% West_Scottish @ 4,360683
14 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Estonian +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 4,365942
15 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% West_Norwegian @ 4,366648
16 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Estonian_Polish +25% Norwegian @ 4,369126
17 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% West_Norwegian @ 4,373215
18 50% Kargopol_Russian +25% Estonian +25% Norwegian @ 4,373774
19 50% Lithuanian +25% Irish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 4,390016
20 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Erzya +25% Norwegian @ 4,391098
4327252 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Norwegian @ 4,173214
2 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Norwegian @ 4,185344
3 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Norwegian @ 4,214877
4 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Norwegian @ 4,219801
5 Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Norwegian @ 4,241112
6 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 4,268432
7 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Norwegian @ 4,271781
8 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Southwest_English @ 4,276022
9 Danish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 4,291976
10 Danish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 4,296902
11 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southwest_English @ 4,304071
12 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 4,314563
13 Estonian+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Norwegian @ 4,324349
14 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 4,327774
15 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish @ 4,329678
16 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+West_Norwegian @ 4,342897
17 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southwest_English @ 4,344152
18 Danish+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 4,344685
19 Danish+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 4,345434
20 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southwest_English @ 4,350089
21 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+West_Norwegian @ 4,352588
22 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Southeast_English @ 4,352923
23 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+West_Scottish @ 4,360213
24 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+West_Scottish @ 4,360683
25 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Russian_Smolensk @ 4,361062
26 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southwest_Finnish @ 4,363869
27 Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 4,365942
28 Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+West_Norwegian @ 4,366648
29 Danish+Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian @ 4,367881
30 Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Norwegian @ 4,369126
31 Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Kargopol_Russian+Southwest_Finnish @ 4,369922
32 Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+West_Norwegian @ 4,373215
33 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Norwegian @ 4,373774
34 Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Lithuanian+Norwegian @ 4,385504
35 East_German+Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 4,386642
36 Irish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 4,390016
37 Estonian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Southeast_English @ 4,390518
38 Erzya+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish+Norwegian @ 4,391098
39 Estonian_Polish+Irish+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian @ 4,391238
40 Kargopol_Russian+Kargopol_Russian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 4,391574
76606520 iterations.

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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1087 : 04 Апрель 2014, 00:52:59 »
Я вот сравнил результаты свои( центр.вост. украинец) и Галичанина,то вот по этим калькуляторам, мы разные народы ???, я не сильно во всем этом разбираюсь, но похоже центр. и вост. украинцы более славянистые, если не прав, то поправте.
Усредненные данные по популяциям (Этноплот на основе Eurogenes K15v2):


http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p217/dpwes/Eurogenes_K15_MDS-1.png~original

Я немного южнее и восточнее хорватов. Как видно, мой результат не типичный для украинцев Львовской области. Это можно объяснить уникальной историей заселения той части Карпат, где я родился. В 15-16 веке здесь имели место ряд колонизационных потоков, главный из которых исходил из Трансильвании.

Думаю, этот плот можно подкрепить результатами вычислений Оракула (предварительно изымая искомые популяции из исходного файла), т.к. часто можно сказать, что, де, "картинка смазана, потому что плот 2D и/или он растянут/масштабирован":

(картинка увеличивается по клику)

Если оценивать "славянскость" по тому, на каком расстоянии находятся группы друг от друга то, подытожив, можно увидеть, что поляки, поляки Эстонии, белорусы, западные русские и украинцы Белгорода, в качестве самых частых ближайщих популяций, обнаруживают следующее сочетание:
Russian_Smolensk-Belorussian-Southwest_Russian-Estonian_Polish-Polish-Ukrainian_Belgorod

А украинцы вместе с южными поляками образуют свой "кластер", немного вдалеке от других, что, в принципе, и показывает этноплот, приведенный ув. Галичанином.


PS имхо, довольно ожидаемый, но в то же время интересный результат референсных поляков в режиме четырех предков:
1 Belorussian+Belorussian+East_German+Estonian_Polish @ 1,515122
2 Belorussian+Belorussian+Belorussian+East_German @ 1,624177
3 Belorussian+East_German+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish @ 1,626096
4 East_German+Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish @ 1,634087
5 Belorussian+East_German+Estonian+Estonian_Polish @ 1,709283


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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1088 : 04 Апрель 2014, 08:25:26 »
Я немного южнее и восточнее хорватов. Как видно, мой результат не типичный для украинцев Львовской области. Это можно объяснить уникальной историей заселения той части Карпат, где я родился. В 15-16 веке здесь имели место ряд колонизационных потоков, главный из которых исходил из Трансильвании.
Скорее, тут хорваты не на ожидаемом месте - оказались заметно более "генетическими балто-славянами", чем сербы и другие балканцы. Точка "чуть ниже и правее хорватов" оказывается между венграми и молдаванами, при этом румыны довольно далеко. Видимо, тут надо проводить линию по Карпатам. Являясь хорошей географической преградой, они разделяют два мира, а сами представляют из себя переходную зону.

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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1089 : 04 Апрель 2014, 09:10:58 »
Получается, по K13v2 я ближе всего к белгородским украинцам.


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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1090 : 04 Апрель 2014, 19:09:58 »
меня в поляки отнесло

Немудрено, славяне на Русь пришли с территории Польши:

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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1091 : 04 Апрель 2014, 19:25:42 »
Я вот сравнил результаты свои( центр.вост. украинец) и Галичанина,то вот по этим калькуляторам, мы разные народы ???, я не сильно во всем этом разбираюсь, но похоже центр. и вост. украинцы более славянистые, если не прав, то поправте.
Усредненные данные по популяциям (Этноплот на основе Eurogenes K15v2):


http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p217/dpwes/Eurogenes_K15_MDS-1.png~original

Я немного южнее и восточнее хорватов. Как видно, мой результат не типичный для украинцев Львовской области. Это можно объяснить уникальной историей заселения той части Карпат, где я родился. В 15-16 веке здесь имели место ряд колонизационных потоков, главный из которых исходил из Трансильвании.

Думаю, этот плот можно подкрепить результатами вычислений Оракула (предварительно изымая искомые популяции из исходного файла), т.к. часто можно сказать, что, де, "картинка смазана, потому что плот 2D и/или он растянут/масштабирован":

(картинка увеличивается по клику)

Если оценивать "славянскость" по тому, на каком расстоянии находятся группы друг от друга то, подытожив, можно увидеть, что поляки, поляки Эстонии, белорусы, западные русские и украинцы Белгорода, в качестве самых частых ближайщих популяций, обнаруживают следующее сочетание:
Russian_Smolensk-Belorussian-Southwest_Russian-Estonian_Polish-Polish-Ukrainian_Belgorod

А украинцы вместе с южными поляками образуют свой "кластер", немного вдалеке от других, что, в принципе, и показывает этноплот, приведенный ув. Галичанином.


PS имхо, довольно ожидаемый, но в то же время интересный результат референсных поляков в режиме четырех предков:
1 Belorussian+Belorussian+East_German+Estonian_Polish @ 1,515122
2 Belorussian+Belorussian+Belorussian+East_German @ 1,624177
3 Belorussian+East_German+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish @ 1,626096
4 East_German+Estonian+Estonian_Polish+Estonian_Polish @ 1,634087
5 Belorussian+East_German+Estonian+Estonian_Polish @ 1,709283
Разве у южных поляков свой кластер?))
 :) Ну, у меня и южные поляки близки, и русские Смоленска:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,763875
2 South_Polish @ 4,991133
правда это в K15, К13 они относительно далеко.
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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1092 : 04 Апрель 2014, 19:35:56 »
поэтому слово "кластер" и в кавычках) если рассматривать в масштабе только приведенных выше популяций то, получается, что Ukranian, Ukranian_Lviv и South_Polish немного "на отлете", в принципе, это видно и на этом плоте.
расчет производился на средних значениях для популяций из файла Поляко, у конкретных людей результаты могут отличаться.

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Re: Polako/Davidski Eurogenes plots
« Ответ #1093 : 04 Апрель 2014, 19:39:49 »
Про карпатскую расу:
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«…карпатская ветвь отличается от других европейских вариантов более тёмной окраской волос, широким лицом и широкоовальным его контуром; этот тип близок к альпийскому типу прежних классификаций, но заметно отличается от него широким лицом, разнообразием контура носа и др. …»

«…Из круга альпийских форм нужно исключить население нижнедунайских провинций: Чехии, Венгрии, Румынии и Сербии. По материалам новейших исследований Сухи, Троничека, в Чехии головной указатель в среднем превышает 85, т. е. заметно больше, чем в севенском районе. В Чехии нет ни одной провинции с более низким указателем. Ширина лица меньше, чем в севенских группах, лицевой указатель выше, доля светлоокрашенных радужин выше (более 50%), темные волосы встречаются реже, средняя длина тела превосходит 172–173 см. Как по сочетанию признаков, так и по локализации население Чехии нельзя включить в альпийскую группу, оно ясно выделяется в особый тип, которому часто присваивают название «карпатский». Объединение карпатского и альпийского типов в одну группу (Хутон) едва ли правильно. Более вероятно, что две названные группы имеют различный древний субстрат. Севенский тип связан с древними племенами колоколообразных сосудов, а карпатский тип – с различными дунайскими неолитическими группами ленточной керамики и др. Разумеется, в современных популяциях карпатского типа не сохранилось специфических особенностей древних типов этой территории.
В карпатскую зону, по материалам антропологического отдела Института этнографии АН СССР, нужно включить в качестве подзон дунайские провинции Венгрии, Трансильванию, Банат, а на севере – южные провинции Польши вплоть до их границы с севернопольскими (мазурскими) вариантами, относящимися к южнобалтийскому типу.
Различия между карпатским и севенским типами не исчерпываются, конечно, четырьмя-пятью разграничительными признаками, обычно используемыми для сравнительной характеристики антропологических типов».
(с) В. Бунак
В целом, невзирая на определенные региональные отличия, украинцы Карпат характеризуются выразительно европеоидным комплексом признаков (без любой монголоидной примеси, наличие которой фиксируется в Центральной и Южной Украине). По большинству ведущих соматологичних маркеров они имеют аналоги среди не только других территориальных групп украинского народа, но и некоторых смежных этнических групп, особенно восточных словаков, поляков-гуралев, румынов, отдельных групп чехов и венгров. Похожие черты морфологического строения присущи также жителям Северо-западной Болгарии, Центральной и Северной Сербии, большинства хорватов. Есть Основания думать, что карпатский антропологический комплекс сложился по крайней мере во время средневековья, а возможно, и раньше…»

(с) Сергій Сегеда. "Антропологічний склад українського народу"

Представители Карпатской группы популяций: венгры, северные и центральные сербы, румыны Трансильвании и Баната, украинцы Карпат и Закарпатья, территориальные группы хорватов и чехов.
http://ultima-cruzado.livejournal.com/28297.html

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Вроде бы сходится с генетикой. У меня высокие показатели West_med и East_med (субстрат Культуры линейно-ленточной керамики)
У меня компонент West_med по всем калькул. тоже повышенный.

 

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