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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #75 : 13 Июнь 2019, 23:25:02 »
Интересно что из Украины показали так много регионов.

По-моему обычный результат для южных русских. Их вообще в калькуляторах размазывает по карте от Вислы до Волги.

По генеалогии украинцы есть или надо искать?

Предки по маме из однодворцев (а до этого детей боярских) и помещичьих крестьян (потому что оба моих прадедушки взяли в жёны девушек из бывших помещичьих). У первых вообще по-моему раньше была чуть ли не кастовость, вступали в браки только со своими. Вторые тоже, несмотря на значительное присутствие выходцев из Украины в регионе, думаю, в браки друг с другом до революции не вступали. А после революции я всех своих предков знаю.

Поэтому это наверно ещё от более старых времён.

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #76 : 13 Июнь 2019, 23:27:55 »
Юноша,

Я десять раз Вас про них спрашивал, но Вы "стестесняетесь". Это типично. Истинный "этнокалькулятрист" - труслив.


Выложите дерево с запасом (7 поколений предков) - посмотрим на Ваших "немцев".

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #77 : 13 Июнь 2019, 23:31:30 »
Ярослав! Очень интересные результаты! А не связано ли население Вологодской обл с Центральной Россией?

Связано, я думаю. Наверно, основной славянский (даже наверно уже можно сказать русский) массив шёл из Владимиро-Суздальщины и по-моему довольно поздно. Первые сведения о Вологде - это уже аж XIII век.

  И ненцы есть и у Вашего отца

Интересен у Ваших родителей Кавказ

Очень мелкие проценты - я всегда на них косо смотрю :)

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #78 : 13 Июнь 2019, 23:31:47 »
То что мнение моё не волнует, это понятно. Дураки тянутся к дуракам.

Про дерево. Да, закрасьте Вы всех до прадедов включительно и выложите.
Неприлично быть таким пугливым. Это называется "праздновать труса на публике".

*** Как дела с продажей "цезарей"? Нашли кого-то глупее себя?

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #79 : 13 Июнь 2019, 23:55:37 »
Ярослав,а по финнам что можете сказать? Могли быть и вепсы и финны и карелы у Вас?

Для сравнения, у уважаемого Srkz в калькуляторе отцу такие результаты дали. По-моему - самое вменяемое, что я видел.

По IBD карелы и вепсы в первых рядах:

Karelian 77,74 ---//Confidence: high
Veps 71,2 ---//Confidence: medium
Russian-North-Kargopol 67,08 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-North-East 64,1 ---//Confidence: very high
Estonian 63,91 ---//Confidence: very high
Moksha 62,83 ---//Confidence: low
Balt 61,16 ---//Confidence: very high
Polish 58,27 ---//Confidence: very high
Finnish-East 58,09 ---//Confidence: high
Belarusian 57,98 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-South 57,49 ---//Confidence: very high
Finnish-West 56,77 ---//Confidence: high
Russian-West 56,52 ---//Confidence: very high
Slovak 54,84 ---//Confidence: high
Ukrainian-West-and-Center 54,11 ---//Confidence: high
Saami 53,32 ---//Confidence: medium
Norwegian 52,93 ---//Confidence: high
Komi 52,58 ---//Confidence: very high
Swedish 51,97 ---//Confidence: high
Ukrainian-East-and-Center 51,97 ---//Confidence: high
Chuvash 51,9 ---//Confidence: very high
Tatar_Lithuanian 51,78 ---//Confidence: very low
Cornish 51,25 ---//Confidence: very high
Irish-and-Scottish 49,86 ---//Confidence: high
Hungarian 49,37 ---//Confidence: very high
Slovenian 49,1 ---//Confidence: high
Bosnian 48,14 ---//Confidence: medium
Croatian 47,22 ---//Confidence: very high
Erzya 47,19 ---//Confidence: medium
English 45,09 ---//Confidence: very high
Serbian 44,91 ---//Confidence: high
Gagauz 44,82 ---//Confidence: medium
Udmurt 43,68 ---//Confidence: high
Montenegrian 43,59 ---//Confidence: medium
Macedonian 42,78 ---//Confidence: medium
Greek_Azov 40,98 ---//Confidence: low
Romanian 40,84 ---//Confidence: medium
French 40,45 ---//Confidence: very high
Mari 40,29 ---//Confidence: high
Bulgarian 39,66 ---//Confidence: high
Tatar-Volga 38,7 ---//Confidence: high
German 38,52 ---//Confidence: medium
Mansi 37,13 ---//Confidence: low
Bashkir 36,98 ---//Confidence: very high
Spanish 36,81 ---//Confidence: very high
Greek 36,36 ---//Confidence: very high
Kosovar 35,89 ---//Confidence: medium
Nogay 35,83 ---//Confidence: high
Ashkenazi 35,82 ---//Confidence: high
Tuscan 35,74 ---//Confidence: very high
Basque 35,55 ---//Confidence: very high
Balkarian 34,47 ---//Confidence: very high
Chechen 33,81 ---//Confidence: very high
Sicilian 33,1 ---//Confidence: very high
Kumyk 32,62 ---//Confidence: high
Adygei 31,68 ---//Confidence: high
Lezgin 31,35 ---//Confidence: very high
Sardinian 31,27 ---//Confidence: very high
Ossetian 30,84 ---//Confidence: high
Shor 30,57 ---//Confidence: low
Turkmen 30,53 ---//Confidence: very high
Kazah 30,49 ---//Confidence: high
Georgian 30,14 ---//Confidence: very high
Tatar-Crimean 29,78 ---//Confidence: low
Turkish 29,7 ---//Confidence: very high
Italian-South 29,16 ---//Confidence: high
Sephard 27,99 ---//Confidence: high
Uzbek 27,56 ---//Confidence: high
Kurd 27,26 ---//Confidence: low
Abkhazian 27,02 ---//Confidence: very high
Azerbaijani 26,82 ---//Confidence: high
Pamiri 26,29 ---//Confidence: very high
Tadjik 25,45 ---//Confidence: high
Selkup 24,94 ---//Confidence: high
Armenian 24,48 ---//Confidence: high
Kalash 24,31 ---//Confidence: very high
Palestinian 23,69 ---//Confidence: very high
Pathan 23,48 ---//Confidence: very high
Druze 23,01 ---//Confidence: very high
Cypriot 22,98 ---//Confidence: medium
Iranian 22,95 ---//Confidence: very high
Hazara 22,78 ---//Confidence: very high
Uygur 22,61 ---//Confidence: medium
Balochi 22,6 ---//Confidence: very high
Burusho 22,37 ---//Confidence: very high
Altaian 22,2 ---//Confidence: very high
Nenets 22,09 ---//Confidence: high
Hakas 21,72 ---//Confidence: medium
Makrani 21,01 ---//Confidence: very high
Ket 20,97 ---//Confidence: low
Brahui 20,46 ---//Confidence: very high
Saud 20,33 ---//Confidence: very high
Syrian 20,06 ---//Confidence: high
Kalmyk 20,02 ---//Confidence: medium
Kol 19,85 ---//Confidence: high
Sindhi 19,83 ---//Confidence: very high
Jordanian 19,8 ---//Confidence: very high
Uttar-Pradesh-HC 19,22 ---//Confidence: high
Kirgiz 19,19 ---//Confidence: very high
Tunisian 18,79 ---//Confidence: medium
UAE 18,54 ---//Confidence: medium
Bedouin 17,77 ---//Confidence: very high
Tuvinian 17,67 ---//Confidence: very high
Dolgan 17,3 ---//Confidence: medium
Andhra-Pradesh 17,18 ---//Confidence: medium
Uttar-Pradesh 16,96 ---//Confidence: very high
Yemenite 16,53 ---//Confidence: medium
Moroccan 16,27 ---//Confidence: very high
Gujarati 16,23 ---//Confidence: very high
Egyptian 16,22 ---//Confidence: medium
Kanjar 15,92 ---//Confidence: low
Mongol 15,18 ---//Confidence: medium
Yakut 14,51 ---//Confidence: very high
Maya 13,24 ---//Confidence: very high
Buryat 12,97 ---//Confidence: very high
Nganassan 12,52 ---//Confidence: high
Tamil-Nadu 11,79 ---//Confidence: high
Evenk 11,77 ---//Confidence: high
Mongola 11,3 ---//Confidence: medium
Kerala 10,64 ---//Confidence: medium
Nivh 10,53 ---//Confidence: low
Tu 10,48 ---//Confidence: low
Even 10,38 ---//Confidence: medium
Burmese 9,87 ---//Confidence: high
Karnataka 9,71 ---//Confidence: medium
Hezhen 9,32 ---//Confidence: low
Munda 8,58 ---//Confidence: very high
Karitiana 8,36 ---//Confidence: medium
Naxi 8,28 ---//Confidence: low
Tujia 8,26 ---//Confidence: medium
Daur 8,23 ---//Confidence: medium
Xibo 7,67 ---//Confidence: medium
Naga 7,59 ---//Confidence: very low
Cambodian 7,52 ---//Confidence: medium
Oroqen 7,47 ---//Confidence: medium
Han 6,84 ---//Confidence: very high
Miao 6,53 ---//Confidence: medium
She 6,38 ---//Confidence: medium
Japanese 6,13 ---//Confidence: very high
Lahu 5,86 ---//Confidence: low
Melanesian 5,75 ---//Confidence: low
Han-North 5,7 ---//Confidence: medium
Ethiopian 5,48 ---//Confidence: high
Dai 4,48 ---//Confidence: medium
Yi 4,32 ---//Confidence: medium
MbutiPygmy 3,38 ---//Confidence: very low
Papuan 1,07 ---//Confidence: high
BiakaPygmy 0,35 ---//Confidence: medium
Yoruba 0,3 ---//Confidence: medium



По Admixture первыми идут русские популяции севера:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:

1 Russian_Kargopol @ 3,66332

2 Russian_Solvychegodsk @ 4,073854

3 Russian_Unzha @ 5,193203

4 Russian_Vyatka @ 5,492645

5 Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk @ 5,693248

6 Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 5,696799

7 Russian_Siberia @ 5,828171

8 Russian_Ural_East @ 6,014911

9 Russian_Novgorod @ 6,316711

10 Russian_Uglich @ 6,334625

11 Russian_Ural_West @ 7,001677

12 Russian_Ivanovo @ 8,398299

13 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 8,510246

14 Russian_Saratov @ 8,779202

15 Russian_Baykal @ 8,785027

16 Russian_Moscow @ 8,82234

17 Erzya @ 8,85094

18 Russian_North_Dvina @ 8,938053

19 Russian_Tambov @ 9,185499

20 Russian_Voronezh @ 9,38556

21 Russian_Ryazan @ 9,554168

22 Russian_Murom @ 9,775365

23 Moksha @ 9,794223

24 Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 9,916048

25 Russian_Lipetsk @ 9,917266

26 Russian_Tver @ 9,976017

27 Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 10,123424

28 Russian_Bryansk @ 10,222021

29 Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 10,523084

30 Russian_Andreapol @ 11,607679

31 Russian_Pskov @ 11,749908

32 Komi_Izhma @ 11,798491

33 Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 11,922388

34 Belarusian_Gomel @ 12,092391

35 Russian_Smolensk @ 12,154467

36 Belarusian_Minsk @ 12,161141

37 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 12,183901

38 Belarusian_Mogilyov @ 12,206383

39 Russian_Don_Cossack @ 12,712018

40 Belarusian_Vitebsk @ 12,856289

41 Belarusian_West @ 12,908449

42 Russian_Kuban @ 12,925727

43 Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 13,257191

44 Polish @ 13,447019

45 Estonian @ 13,805186

46 Vepsa @ 13,993899

47 Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 14,134555

48 Ukrainian_Lvov @ 14,470967

49 Tatar_Mishar_Drozzhanovskiy @ 14,542336

50 Lithuanian @ 14,553698

128 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:

1 Russian_Moscow+Russian_North_Dvina @ 2,853749

2 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_North_Dvina @ 2,875792

3 Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,906889

4 Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Saratov @ 2,944112

5 Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,031029

6 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,05511

7 Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Novgorod @ 3,066289

8 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,110396

9 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Saratov @ 3,153469

10 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,232657

11 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,236083

12 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Voronezh @ 3,264544

13 Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Tver @ 3,273344

14 Russian_Murom+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,274784

15 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,283877

16 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Moscow @ 3,289305

17 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,307939

18 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,323217

19 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,346006

20 Belarusian_West+Vepsa @ 3,370684

21 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Murom @ 3,384782

22 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,387981

23 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,401962

24 Russian_Kargopol+Russian_Solvychegodsk @ 3,445068

25 Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,458636

26 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,468452

27 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,47854

28 Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,509017

29 Russian_Andreapol+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,518955

30 Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Uglich @ 3,523724

31 Polish+Vepsa @ 3,534554

32 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Tver @ 3,535886

33 Belarusian_West+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,538602

34 Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Tambov @ 3,578741

35 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,592038

36 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Novgorod @ 3,598821

37 Russian_North_Dvina+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,601287

38 Polish+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,623174

39 Russian_Ivanovo+Russian_North_Dvina @ 3,626166

40 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,661079

41 Russian_Kargopol+Russian_Kargopol @ 3,66332

42 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,667605

43 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Uglich @ 3,71905

44 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Russian_Tambov @ 3,723278

45 Russian_Kargopol+Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk @ 3,739526

46 Russian_Mezen_Pinega+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,772572

47 Russian_Voronezh+Vepsa @ 3,778644

48 Belarusian_Minsk+Komi_Izhma @ 3,80334

49 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Vepsa @ 3,810956

50 Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Mezen_Pinega @ 3,813973

8256 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Erzya +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Lithuanian @ 2,352619

2 50% Lithuanian +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Tatar_Kazan_Tarhanovskiy @ 2,448802

3 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,479553

4 50% Erzya +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Finnish_Inkeri @ 2,496528

5 50% Erzya +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Finnish_Savo_South @ 2,516948

6 50% Erzya +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Russian_Pskov @ 2,547385

7 50% Lithuanian +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Tatar_Kazan_Zelenodolskiy @ 2,551721

8 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Russian_Ural_West @ 2,561567

9 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Karelian +25% Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,562323

10 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Saami @ 2,576847

11 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Karelian +25% Komi_Izhma @ 2,578118

12 50% Lithuanian +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Tatar_Bashkiria @ 2,595102

13 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Saami @ 2,595677

14 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Belarusian_West +25% Saami @ 2,606606

15 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Saami @ 2,614105

16 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Karelian +25% Komi_Zyryan_SW @ 2,615457

17 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Voronezh +25% Saami @ 2,62102

18 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Karelian +25% Russian_Ural_West @ 2,62153

19 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Ryazan +25% Saami @ 2,622138

20 50% Russian_North_Dvina +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Russian_Saratov @ 2,626068

21 50% Russian_Moscow +25% Erzya +25% Karelian @ 2,631412

22 50% Russian_North_Dvina +25% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Saratov @ 2,637716

23 50% Russian_North_Dvina +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Saratov @ 2,638316

24 50% Erzya +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Finnish_South_West @ 2,638654

25 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Komi_Izhma +25% Vepsa @ 2,639205

26 50% Russian_North_Dvina +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Russian_Novgorod @ 2,641495

27 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Siberia +25% Vepsa @ 2,645249

28 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Moscow +25% Saami @ 2,647292

29 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Saratov +25% Saami @ 2,653135

30 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Lipetsk +25% Saami @ 2,656049

31 50% Erzya +25% Karelian +25% Russian_Novgorod @ 2,659268

32 50% Russian_North_Dvina +25% Russian_Lipetsk +25% Russian_Novgorod @ 2,667001

33 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Meshtchyora +25% Saami @ 2,668323

34 50% Russian_North_Dvina +25% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 2,669576

35 50% Erzya +25% Karelian +25% Russian_Pskov @ 2,67217

36 50% Erzya +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Karelian @ 2,684643

37 50% Russian_Meshtchyora +25% Erzya +25% Karelian @ 2,685643

38 50% Erzya +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Finnish_Savo_South @ 2,689131

39 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Russian_Ural_East @ 2,689351

40 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Saami @ 2,696743

41 50% Russian_North_Dvina +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Russian_Saratov @ 2,697752

42 50% Russian_Novgorod +25% Russian_Kursk_Oryol +25% Saami @ 2,703069

43 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Komi_Zyryan_SW @ 2,703116

44 50% Russian_Meshtchyora +25% Karelian +25% Russian_Unzha @ 2,706238

45 50% Erzya +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Finnish_Inkeri @ 2,714567

46 50% Russian_Saratov +25% Russian_Kargopol +25% Vepsa @ 2,716274

47 50% Lithuanian +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Tatar_Mishar_Drozzhanovskiy @ 2,719485

48 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Russian_Vyatka @ 2,720917

49 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Finnish_South_West +25% Komi_Zyryan_SW @ 2,723367

50 50% Erzya +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Karelian @ 2,72411

711095 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Erzya+Erzya+Finnish_South_West+Lithuanian @ 2,352619

2 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Ural_West+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,356373

3 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Moscow+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,37686

4 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,384413

5 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Novgorod @ 2,438547

6 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Ural_East @ 2,43975

7 Finnish_South_West+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Tatar_Kazan_Tarhanovskiy @ 2,448802

8 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,468728

9 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,473937

10 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Finnish_South_West+Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,479553

11 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Moscow+Russian_Novgorod @ 2,482309

12 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk @ 2,484905

13 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Lipetsk+Vepsa @ 2,484986

14 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Saratov+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,492571

15 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Erzya+Finnish_Inkeri @ 2,496528

16 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Ural_East+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,501172

17 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Unzha @ 2,505319

18 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Siberia @ 2,505869

19 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Vyatka @ 2,506485

20 Belarusian_Minsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Lipetsk+Vepsa @ 2,510461

21 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Erzya+Finnish_Savo_South @ 2,516948

22 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Ural_East @ 2,51898

23 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Moscow+Russian_Ural_East @ 2,519639

24 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Kargopol @ 2,522304

25 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Bryansk+Vepsa @ 2,524525

26 Belarusian_Minsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Bryansk+Vepsa @ 2,526893

27 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Saratov+Vepsa @ 2,528907

28 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Finnish_Savo_South+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 2,529092

29 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Ryazan+Vepsa @ 2,530605

30 Belarusian_Minsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Voronezh+Vepsa @ 2,531448

31 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Vyatka @ 2,532488

32 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Finnish_Savo_South+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,532855

33 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Finnish_South_West+Russian_Unzha @ 2,535876

34 Belarusian_Minsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Saratov+Vepsa @ 2,53606

35 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Finnish_South_West+Lithuanian+Tatar_Mishar_Drozzhanovskiy @ 2,536506

36 Belarusian_Minsk+Komi_Izhma+Polish+Vepsa @ 2,543909

37 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Komi_Izhma+Vepsa @ 2,544051

38 Erzya+Erzya+Finnish_South_West+Russian_Pskov @ 2,547385

39 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Voronezh+Russian_Vyatka @ 2,551517

40 Finnish_South_West+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Tatar_Kazan_Zelenodolskiy @ 2,551721

41 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Karelian+Russian_Ural_West+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,55296

42 Belarusian_Minsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Ryazan+Vepsa @ 2,555893

43 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Solvychegodsk @ 2,556126

44 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Saratov+Vepsa @ 2,55641

45 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Voronezh+Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,559375

46 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Finnish_South_West+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,561567

47 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Saratov+Russian_Vyatka @ 2,562178

48 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,562323

49 Karelian+Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Ural_West+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,562984

50 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Siberia @ 2,567393

51 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Novgorod+Saami @ 2,576847

52 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Komi_Izhma+Polish+Vepsa @ 2,577015

53 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,577355

54 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Komi_Izhma @ 2,578118

55 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,580426

56 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Saratov @ 2,581123

57 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_North_Dvina+Vepsa @ 2,583989

58 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Moscow+Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,584712

59 Estonian+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Novgorod+Slovak @ 2,587136

60 Belarusian_Minsk+Karelian+Russian_Ural_West+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,587601

61 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Karelian+Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,587838

62 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Moscow @ 2,590405

63 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Unzha @ 2,591013

64 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,591938

65 Finnish_South_West+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Tatar_Bashkiria @ 2,595102

66 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Novgorod+Saami @ 2,595677

67 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Saratov+Russian_Ural_East @ 2,599802

68 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Karelian+Russian_Moscow+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,599875

69 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Komi_Izhma @ 2,601514

70 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,602048

71 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Tver+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,602608

72 Belarusian_West+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Novgorod+Saami @ 2,606606

73 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Komi_Izhma+Vepsa @ 2,608944

74 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 2,609129

75 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Finnish_South_West+Komi_Zyryan_SW @ 2,609131

76 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Finnish_Inkeri+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 2,610505

77 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Unzha+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,610808

78 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Komi_Izhma+Ukrainian_Chernigov+Vepsa @ 2,610832

79 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Murom+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,611153

80 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Voronezh+Vepsa @ 2,611698

81 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,613236

82 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Novgorod+Saami @ 2,614105

83 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Finnish_South_West+Lithuanian+Tatar_Kazan_Tarhanovskiy @ 2,614134

84 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Russian_North_Dvina+Russian_Voronezh+Vepsa @ 2,615175

85 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Minsk+Karelian+Komi_Zyryan_SW @ 2,615457

86 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Novgorod @ 2,615756

87 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Erzya+Finnish_South_West+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 2,617589

88 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Siberia+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,618063

89 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Unzha @ 2,620308

90 Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Moscow+Russian_Unzha @ 2,620624

91 Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Voronezh+Saami @ 2,62102

92 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Komi_Izhma+Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Vepsa @ 2,621134

93 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,62153

94 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Karelian+Komi_Izhma @ 2,621899

95 Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Novgorod+Russian_Ryazan+Saami @ 2,622138

96 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Finnish_Inkeri+Lithuanian+Tatar_Kazan_Tarhanovskiy @ 2,623243

97 Belarusian_Minsk+Erzya+Karelian+Russian_Unzha @ 2,623611

98 Belarusian_Minsk+Karelian+Russian_Moscow+Russian_Ural_West @ 2,623856

99 Erzya+Finnish_South_West+Lithuanian+Moksha @ 2,623999

100 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Finnish_South_West+Lithuanian+Tatar_Kryashen @ 2,624511

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #80 : 14 Июнь 2019, 00:15:26 »
А вот у мамы даже здесь по-моему от Вислы до Волги. Хотя в Admixture первыми Курск-Орёл стоит.

IBD:

Balt 68,22 ---//Confidence: very high
Moksha 68,18 ---//Confidence: low
Russian-West 67,47 ---//Confidence: very high
Ukrainian-East-and-Center 66,88 ---//Confidence: high
Belarusian 63,1 ---//Confidence: very high
Estonian 61,06 ---//Confidence: very high
Polish 60,92 ---//Confidence: very high
Erzya 60,2 ---//Confidence: medium
Russian-South 60,19 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-North-East 60,1 ---//Confidence: very high
Karelian 57,54 ---//Confidence: high
Ukrainian-West-and-Center 57 ---//Confidence: high
Bosnian 56,37 ---//Confidence: medium
Veps 56,1 ---//Confidence: medium
Swedish 55,89 ---//Confidence: high
Russian-North-Kargopol 55,5 ---//Confidence: very high
Finnish-East 55,09 ---//Confidence: high
Serbian 54,16 ---//Confidence: high
Hungarian 53,37 ---//Confidence: very high
Slovenian 52,24 ---//Confidence: high
Cornish 51,22 ---//Confidence: very high
Slovak 51,11 ---//Confidence: high
Croatian 50,87 ---//Confidence: very high
English 50,62 ---//Confidence: very high
Russian-Pomor 50,54 ---//Confidence: medium
Gagauz 50,4 ---//Confidence: medium
Norwegian 48,76 ---//Confidence: high
Finnish-West 48,73 ---//Confidence: high
Bulgarian 48,49 ---//Confidence: high
Komi 48,23 ---//Confidence: high
Tatar-Volga 47,72 ---//Confidence: high
Irish-and-Scottish 47,61 ---//Confidence: high
Montenegrian 46,16 ---//Confidence: medium
German 45,72 ---//Confidence: medium
Romanian 45,13 ---//Confidence: medium
Greek_Azov 44,37 ---//Confidence: low
French 43,8 ---//Confidence: very high
Spanish 42,69 ---//Confidence: very high
Macedonian 41,79 ---//Confidence: medium
Basque 41,66 ---//Confidence: very high
Chuvash 41,31 ---//Confidence: very high
Mari 40,98 ---//Confidence: high
Balkarian 40,64 ---//Confidence: very high
Tuscan 40,32 ---//Confidence: very high
Greek 39,97 ---//Confidence: very high
Udmurt 38,65 ---//Confidence: high
Italian-South 38,47 ---//Confidence: high
Kosovar 37,68 ---//Confidence: medium
Sardinian 37,08 ---//Confidence: very high
Tatar-Crimean 36,69 ---//Confidence: low
Saami 36,66 ---//Confidence: medium
Lezgin 36,3 ---//Confidence: very high
Bashkir 35,27 ---//Confidence: very high
Adygei 35,2 ---//Confidence: high
Sicilian 35,16 ---//Confidence: very high
Ashkenazi 35,11 ---//Confidence: high
Tatar_Lithuanian 35,01 ---//Confidence: very low
Chechen 34,73 ---//Confidence: very high
Kurd 34,35 ---//Confidence: low
Nogay 33,11 ---//Confidence: high
Cypriot 32,63 ---//Confidence: medium
Ossetian 32,07 ---//Confidence: high
Georgian 31,87 ---//Confidence: very high
Pamiri 31,38 ---//Confidence: very high
Turkish 30,82 ---//Confidence: very high
Tadjik 30,32 ---//Confidence: high
Kumyk 30,18 ---//Confidence: high
Sephard 30,05 ---//Confidence: high
Azerbaijani 29,61 ---//Confidence: high
Abkhazian 29,49 ---//Confidence: very high
Kalash 28,1 ---//Confidence: very high
Iranian 26,63 ---//Confidence: very high
Shor 26,12 ---//Confidence: low
Turkmen 26,09 ---//Confidence: very high
Brahui 25,13 ---//Confidence: very high
Armenian 25,06 ---//Confidence: high
Kanjar 24,83 ---//Confidence: low
Druze 24,64 ---//Confidence: very high
Pathan 24,42 ---//Confidence: very high
Uzbek 24,32 ---//Confidence: high
Selkup 23,61 ---//Confidence: high
Syrian 23,41 ---//Confidence: high
Sindhi 22,96 ---//Confidence: very high
Hazara 22,88 ---//Confidence: very high
UAE 22,7 ---//Confidence: medium
Burusho 22,53 ---//Confidence: very high
Balochi 22,48 ---//Confidence: very high
Kazah 22,08 ---//Confidence: high
Makrani 21,95 ---//Confidence: very high
Jordanian 21,77 ---//Confidence: very high
Moroccan 21,73 ---//Confidence: very high
Palestinian 21,58 ---//Confidence: very high
Bedouin 21,52 ---//Confidence: very high
Uygur 21,44 ---//Confidence: medium
Saud 21,43 ---//Confidence: very high
Mansi 21,42 ---//Confidence: medium
Dolgan 19,76 ---//Confidence: medium
Gujarati 19,58 ---//Confidence: very high
Uttar-Pradesh-HC 19,14 ---//Confidence: high
Altaian 18,99 ---//Confidence: very high
Nenets 18,87 ---//Confidence: high
Tunisian 18,67 ---//Confidence: medium
Uttar-Pradesh 18,58 ---//Confidence: very high
Ket 18,52 ---//Confidence: low
Kirgiz 18,07 ---//Confidence: very high
Hakas 18,01 ---//Confidence: medium
Yemenite 17,88 ---//Confidence: medium
Mongol 17,32 ---//Confidence: medium
Karnataka 16,92 ---//Confidence: medium
Kol 16,34 ---//Confidence: high
Nganassan 16,05 ---//Confidence: high
Andhra-Pradesh 15,08 ---//Confidence: medium
Tuvinian 14,48 ---//Confidence: very high
Evenk 14,05 ---//Confidence: high
Egyptian 13,6 ---//Confidence: medium
Kalmyk 13,45 ---//Confidence: medium
Buryat 13,09 ---//Confidence: very high
Tamil-Nadu 12,79 ---//Confidence: high
Yakut 12,21 ---//Confidence: very high
Nivh 10,86 ---//Confidence: low
Daur 10,71 ---//Confidence: medium
Kerala 10,36 ---//Confidence: medium
Burmese 10,13 ---//Confidence: high
Tu 9,78 ---//Confidence: low
Oroqen 9,43 ---//Confidence: medium
Maya 9,06 ---//Confidence: very high
Tujia 8,98 ---//Confidence: medium
Hezhen 8,69 ---//Confidence: low
Miao 8,56 ---//Confidence: medium
She 8,29 ---//Confidence: medium
Munda 8,26 ---//Confidence: very high
Japanese 8,2 ---//Confidence: very high
Naga 7,06 ---//Confidence: very low
Cambodian 7,03 ---//Confidence: medium
Even 6,96 ---//Confidence: medium
Han-North 6,96 ---//Confidence: medium
Melanesian 6,83 ---//Confidence: low
Lahu 6,73 ---//Confidence: low
Mongola 6,49 ---//Confidence: medium
Yi 6,48 ---//Confidence: medium
Han 5,51 ---//Confidence: very high
Xibo 5,46 ---//Confidence: medium
Naxi 5,32 ---//Confidence: low
Dai 5,17 ---//Confidence: medium
Ethiopian 4,53 ---//Confidence: high
Karitiana 2,4 ---//Confidence: medium
Papuan 1,09 ---//Confidence: high
BantuKenia 1 ---//Confidence: low



Admixture:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 3,009608
2 Russian_Bryansk @ 3,083274
3 Russian_Ryazan @ 3,089224
4 Russian_Moscow @ 3,635717
5 Russian_Saratov @ 3,679864
6 Russian_Tambov @ 3,691255
7 Russian_Lipetsk @ 3,728054
8 Russian_Voronezh @ 3,783025
9 Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,949175
10 Russian_Murom @ 3,981767
11 Russian_Tver @ 4,010113
12 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 4,13497
13 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,137575
14 Russian_Arzamas @ 4,438293
15 Russian_Uglich @ 4,710943
16 Russian_Ivanovo @ 4,78596
17 Belarusian_Minsk @ 4,967915
18 Russian_Novgorod @ 4,990515
19 Belarusian_Gomel @ 5,015387
20 Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 5,139782
21 Belarusian_Mogilyov @ 5,35028
22 Belarusian_West @ 5,581703
23 Russian_Andreapol @ 5,589852
24 Polish @ 5,591486
25 Russian_Kuban @ 5,602132
26 Russian_Smolensk @ 5,899444
27 Russian_Don_Cossack @ 6,175448
28 Russian_Pskov @ 6,474521
29 Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk @ 6,492322
30 Belarusian_Vitebsk @ 6,582179
31 Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 6,826614
32 Russian_Unzha @ 6,91021
33 Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 7,505762
34 Erzya @ 8,1125
35 Russian_Siberia @ 8,246947
36 Ukrainian_Lvov @ 8,436706
37 Moksha @ 8,859371
38 Russian_Solvychegodsk @ 9,007728
39 Russian_Kargopol_HGDP @ 9,48321
40 Russian_Vyatka @ 9,60753
41 Lithuanian @ 10,111047
42 Russian_Ural_East @ 10,672954
43 Slovak @ 11,528567
44 Russian_Baykal @ 12,113951
45 Russian_Ural_West @ 12,154207
46 Russian_Vyatka_NE @ 15,107832
47 Latgalian @ 15,678519
48 Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 16,454858
49 Tatar_Mishar_Drozzhanovskiy @ 17,12976
50 Russian_North_Dvina @ 17,150638
127 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Novgorod+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,102191
2 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,437387
3 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,493731
4 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Tambov @ 2,536687
5 Russian_Novgorod+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,537038
6 Polish+Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 2,600216
7 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,636878
8 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Novgorod @ 2,638482
9 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Tambov @ 2,64309
10 Polish+Russian_Novgorod @ 2,675245
11 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Saratov @ 2,706466
12 Russian_Uglich+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,718375
13 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,719723
14 Russian_Novgorod+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 2,763543
15 Russian_Uglich+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 2,764855
16 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Uglich @ 2,777936
17 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 2,78079
18 Russian_Uglich+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 2,798257
19 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Uglich @ 2,819627
20 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,847168
21 Russian_Moscow+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,848171
22 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,851846
23 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Pskov @ 2,858957
24 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Ryazan @ 2,869758
25 Russian_Novgorod+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 2,881094
26 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Moscow @ 2,882956
27 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Moscow @ 2,899902
28 Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,916312
29 Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,935056
30 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Russian_Lipetsk @ 2,954016
31 Russian_Ivanovo+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,957768
32 Russian_Moscow+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,961136
33 Russian_Ustyuzhna+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,965883
34 Russian_Ustyuzhna+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 2,970863
35 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 2,973514
36 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Tambov @ 2,9776
37 Russian_Ryazan+Russian_Voronezh @ 2,998201
38 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Uglich @ 2,999154
39 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Murom @ 3,006204
40 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 3,009608
41 Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,023712
42 Russian_Pskov+Russian_Tambov @ 3,030617
43 Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,03691
44 Belarusian_Gomel+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,055738
45 Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Ryazan @ 3,063644
46 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk @ 3,069802
47 Russian_Arzamas+Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 3,070903
48 Russian_Arzamas+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 3,071673
49 Russian_Ryazan+Russian_Saratov @ 3,072187
50 Belarusian_West+Russian_Novgorod @ 3,083212
8128 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,718123
2 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Estonian @ 1,730739
3 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,76333
4 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,763474
5 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Estonian @ 1,770017
6 50% Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,7886
7 50% Russian_Andreapol +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,811311
8 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,863722
9 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,882218
10 50% Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina +25% Estonian +25% Slovak @ 1,89218
11 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Estonian @ 1,892903
12 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 1,895472
13 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Estonian @ 1,896728
14 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,897152
15 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,898034
16 50% Russian_Kuban +25% Estonian +25% Slovak @ 1,904433
17 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 1,92246
18 50% Lithuanian +25% Bulgarian +25% Estonian @ 1,928851
19 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Andreapol @ 1,94411
20 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 1,949674
21 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Estonian +25% Moldavian @ 1,949763
22 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Voronezh @ 1,952384
23 50% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Ustyuzhna +25% Slovak @ 1,956145
24 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,9576
25 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 1,966401
26 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Kuban @ 1,971155
27 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,984365
28 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 2,00401
29 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Polish @ 2,005098
30 50% Lithuanian +25% Estonian +25% Serbian @ 2,049529
31 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 2,053246
32 50% Russian_Lipetsk +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Ustyuzhna @ 2,059604
33 50% Russian_Lipetsk +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Russian_Novgorod @ 2,070651
34 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Croatian +25% Estonian @ 2,079363
35 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Kursk_Oryol @ 2,08247
36 50% Belarusian_Vitebsk +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 2,082688
37 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Estonian @ 2,084044
38 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Tambov @ 2,093941
39 50% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 2,098743
40 50% Belarusian_Gomel +25% Estonian +25% Slovak @ 2,102269
41 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Belarusian_Mogilyov +25% Estonian @ 2,102315
42 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Don_Cossack @ 2,103931
43 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 2,105507
44 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 2,106097
45 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Pskov @ 2,107298
46 50% Russian_Andreapol +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 2,114218
47 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Belarusian_Minsk +25% Estonian @ 2,118197
48 50% Ukrainian_Vinnitsa +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Murom @ 2,120171
49 50% Ukrainian_Lvov +25% Estonian +25% Russian_Kuban @ 2,125657
50 50% Ukrainian_Chernigov +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_Lvov @ 2,126561
626214 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belarusian_Minsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,581949
2 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,673908
3 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,675216
4 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,67915
5 Belarusian_Minsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,681281
6 Belarusian_Gomel+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,682901
7 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,683159
8 Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,692065
9 Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk+Serbian @ 1,697718
10 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,703303
11 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,707739
12 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,709316
13 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,711163
14 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,716488
15 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,718123
16 Belarusian_West+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,725422
17 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,730739
18 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Minsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,732986
19 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,743291
20 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_West+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,746209
21 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,746492
22 Estonian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,752094
23 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,752811
24 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,754524
25 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,755385
26 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Kuban @ 1,757215
27 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,760895
28 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,76333
29 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Minsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,763474
30 Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Poltava+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,766902
31 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,768296
32 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,770017
33 Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,770772
34 Estonian+Polish+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,77236
35 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_West+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,773652
36 Belarusian_Gomel+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,775929
37 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,776137
38 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,776318
39 Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,778364
40 Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,778444
41 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_West+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,781081
42 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,782484
43 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,782969
44 Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,78355
45 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,785485
46 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,785497
47 Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,7886
48 Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,792257
49 Estonian+Polish+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,797811
50 Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,79997
51 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,802807
52 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Lithuanian+Serbian @ 1,803579
53 Estonian+Polish+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Lvov @ 1,804817
54 Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 1,806122
55 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,811311
56 Belarusian_Gomel+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Pskov @ 1,811988
57 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,816089
58 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 1,817677
59 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Slovak @ 1,820004
60 Estonian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,821116
61 Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,822128
62 Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,827375
63 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,828986
64 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,830658
65 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,830994
66 Belarusian_West+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,832336
67 Belarusian_West+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,832791
68 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,83561
69 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,83569
70 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Belarusian_West+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,837589
71 Estonian+Russian_Andreapol+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,843224
72 Estonian+Polish+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,845243
73 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Russian_Kursk_Oryol+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,845804
74 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,846421
75 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Voronezh @ 1,847906
76 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,851672
77 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,857347
78 Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Don_Cossack+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,857359
79 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,861243
80 Estonian+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,861999
81 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,86325
82 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,863722
83 Belarusian_Minsk+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Croatian+Estonian @ 1,863933
84 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Slovak @ 1,864535
85 Estonian+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_Lvov+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,865478
86 Belarusian_Minsk+Estonian+Russian_Kuban+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,865937
87 Estonian+Polish+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,87322
88 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,873352
89 Belarusian_West+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Pskov @ 1,873404
90 Belarusian_Mogilyov+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Andreapol @ 1,874073
91 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Polish+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,874632
92 Belarusian_Minsk+Russian_Lipetsk+Russian_Ustyuzhna+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,874756
93 Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,877358
94 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Estonian+Slovak+Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina @ 1,87838
95 Belarusian_Gomel+Estonian+Polish+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,878933
96 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Croatian+Estonian+Russian_Pskov @ 1,879137
97 Belarusian_Gomel+Belarusian_Mogilyov+Estonian+Ukrainian_Carpaty @ 1,879346
98 Croatian+Estonian+Lithuanian+Russian_Bryansk @ 1,881787
99 Belarusian_Vitebsk+Bulgarian+Estonian+Lithuanian @ 1,881895
100 Estonian+Ukrainian_Poltava+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa+Ukrainian_Vinnitsa @ 1,882218
4252035 iterations.


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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #81 : 14 Июнь 2019, 02:06:17 »
Очередное воззвание к здравому смыслу.

:)


Намерено не касаюсь пообластных разбиений.
Если у человека отсутствует исчерпывающее родословие, или он бережет его от чужого глаза, то тут любые варианты возможны. Пустая трата времени.

Поговорим об очевидном. О ненцах.
Не о "немцах в зеркале", а о северном сибирском народе.

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #82 : 14 Июнь 2019, 02:10:01 »
Имеем 4 результата.
В них ненцы занимают 0, 3.1, 3.0, 1.8 процента.
Для простоты, всех их будем полагать ненцами европейскими. То есть, с Кольского полуострова и Архангелгородцами.

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #83 : 14 Июнь 2019, 02:11:13 »
Иными словами, меня пытаются убедить, что 3 человека из 4 имеют ненецких предков?

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #84 : 14 Июнь 2019, 02:12:50 »
А может всё-таки стоит принять мой тезис о сходстве? Который заменит примитивное предковое толкование?

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #85 : 14 Июнь 2019, 02:14:10 »
Может нужно согласиться с другим моим утверждением, о том, что и выборки кривые, и принцип их формирования дрянь?

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #86 : 14 Июнь 2019, 02:15:53 »
Если настаивать на том, что косяк только с ненцами, то почему мы откидываем такой же вариант и для прочих, сходных по размеру компонент?

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #87 : 14 Июнь 2019, 02:19:50 »
Дождёмся данных от Андронна.
Будет уже какая-никакая статистика. 5 человек.

Пока моё мнение следующее:
1. Смотреть надо суммарно. (Скажем, русские, а не по областям России.)
2. Компонентами менее 10% пренебрегать.
3. Результаты без ярковыраженных максимумов подвергать сомнению.

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #88 : 14 Июнь 2019, 02:22:16 »
Прогресс на месте не стоит.
Возможно, если использовать подход из предыдущего сообщения, уже можем уверенно перейти от "восточноевропейцев" к русским, украинцам, белорусам.

А может, что пока и нет.  :)

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Re: EthnoGene
« Ответ #89 : 14 Июнь 2019, 04:27:44 »
Что бы я делал, если у меня какая-то компонента была 8%?
И были смутные подозрения, что итальянцы действительно могли затесаться в род на глубине 4-5 поколений?

Естественно, не стал бы ковыряться с другими калькуляторами.
Перво наперво, проверил лист своих матчей.
А есть ли там итальянские фамилии?
Как часто встречаются?

 

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