Как найти биологического отца?

[Mich Glitch]

Дополнение к совету 1.
Если у Вас единоутробные братья, или сестры, то можно протестировать их вместо дяди, или тети.

[Anna M]

Добрый день!
Да, есть сестра, попробую для нее тест заказать.
Как здесь выложить файл, я к сожалению, не знаю...

[Mich Glitch]

Итак. Смотрим начало листа на ГедМатч:

[Mich Glitch]

Добрый день!
Да, есть сестра, попробую для нее тест заказать.
Как здесь выложить файл, я к сожалению, не знаю...

То есть действуем так. У Вас с сестрой разные папы.
Делаете для неё ФФ.
Затем выбираете опцию для сравнения Not common with.
Получите родственников со стороны своего папы + составные УПСы. От этого листа и будем плясать.

[Mich Glitch]

Вернёмся к ГедМатч.
Вижу три "тюрскские" фамилии и одну "армянскую".
Не факт, что пересечение идёт именно с отцовской стороны.

[Mich Glitch]

Вот тут на карте (ссылка на мой результат-карту) можете посмотреть на референтные популяции, которые я сейчас использую для сравнения.
Не факт, что популяция Вашего отца присутствует.
Скорее даже не так, вероятность того, что присутствует популяция Вашего отца - мизерная.

Но попытка не пытка. Не так ли, товарищ Берия?   

[Mich Glitch]

Исходник:

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions


This utility uses the Eurogenes K36 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Eurogenes Genetic Ancestry Project blog.

Kit Number: T888246   Elapsed Time: 32.20 seconds


Population   
Amerindian   1.21
Arabian   1.54
Armenian   3.91
Basque   -   
Central_African   -   
Central_Euro   3.65
East_African   -   
East_Asian   -   
East_Balkan   1.38
East_Central_Asian   -   
East_Central_Euro   13.34
East_Med   8.34
Eastern_Euro   12.01
Fennoscandian   7.52
French   -   
Iberian   0.92
Indo-Chinese   -   
Italian   5.85
Malayan   -   
Near_Eastern   4.54
North_African   -   
North_Atlantic   6.29
North_Caucasian   12.40
North_Sea   -   
Northeast_African   0.54
Oceanian   -   
Omotic   -   
Pygmy   -   
Siberian   -   
South_Asian   -   
South_Central_Asian   8.07
South_Chinese   -   
Volga-Ural   3.12
West_African   -   
West_Caucasian   5.32
West_Med   -   

[Mich Glitch]

Уже в исходнике кавказская компонента превышает восточноевропейскую.

[Mich Glitch]

Да, сразу скажу. В личку писать не надо. Всё обсуждаем в ветке.

Я изображаю из себе не бесплатного консультанта-волонтёра, а популяризатора генетической генеалогии.     

[Mich Glitch]

Входной файл:

T888246
E:\Genetical\Programs\Oracle\k36_v1_dots.txt
Output1.txt
20     {Quantity of approximations}
0.25     {Threshold of components to ignore noice (-1 for autodetect)}
1      {1 for enable gaussian method or 0 for disable}
1.21     Amerindian
1.54     Arabian
3.91     Armenian
0     Basque
0     Central_African
3.65     Central_Euro
0     East_African
0     East_Asian
1.38     East_Balkan
0     East_Central_Asian
13.34     East_Central_Euro
8.34     East_Med
12.01     Eastern_Euro
7.52     Fennoscandian
0     French
0.92     Iberian
0     IndoChinese
5.85     Italian
0     Malayan
4.54     Near_Eastern
0     North_African
6.29     North_Atlantic
12.40     North_Caucasian
0     North_Sea
0.54     Northeast_African
0     Oceanian
0     Omotic
0     Pygmy
0     Siberian
0     South_Asian
8.07     South_Central_Asian
0     South_Chinese
3.12     VolgaUral
0     West_African
5.32     West_Caucasian
0     WestMed

[Mich Glitch]

Входной файл набил без ошибок.

[Mich Glitch]

Да, теперь адресуюсь к коллегам.
Рассматриваю только одиночные популяции. И чем дальше рассматриваю, тем всё более утверждаюсь в верности данного подхода.     
Пережёвывать в очередной раз, а почему не пары, или не четвёрки очень не хотелось бы.
Кто хочет, просто может сделать свой предикт.

[Mich Glitch]

У меня у племянниц жены хорошо представлены миксы. Среди пап: талыш, кабардинец, осетин.
Ваша же аватарка больше всего напоминает племянницу. Которая просто русская.   

[Mich Glitch]

В DNA Tribes тоже не очень много популяций.
Вот что по нашу душу:

Armenian (Ararat Valley, Armenia) (105)
Armenian (Gardman, Azerbaijan) (95)
Armenian (Lake Van, Armenia) (101)
Armenian (Sason, Eastern Turkey) (103)

Baku, Azerbaijan (285)

Georgia (65)

[Mich Glitch]

Входной файл:

4 Ancestors Oracle
Version 0.97 by Alexandr Burnashev

Data file is E:\Genetical\Programs\Oracle\k36_v1_dots.txt
36 components mode.
Population data has been read.  337 populations found.
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Person: T888246
Threshold of components set to 0.25%


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 BLG_Turk @ 17.806324
2 Tatar_Volga @ 18.924096
3 Tatar_Lithuanian @ 18.969956
4 Moldavian @ 19.331934
5 Tatar_Kryashen @ 19.571355
6 Romania_SE @ 19.922621
7 South_Romania @ 19.996156
8 NE_Romania @ 20.202736
9 Tatar_Crimea_Coast @ 20.608981
10 Tatar_Yunusbayev @ 20.816745
11 Greek_Azov @ 20.894716
12 Romania_SW @ 20.994029
13 Romania_Central @ 21.228834
14 Bulgaria @ 21.255862
15 Hungary @ 21.388847
16 Romania_NW @ 21.504425
17 Moksha @ 21.604471
18 West_Serbian @ 21.678136
19 Serbian @ 22.139683
20 Croatian @ 22.233985
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Azeri+Ukrainian_North_East @ 7.606113
2 Azeri+Russian_Center @ 7.678015
3 Kurd+Russian_Center @ 7.799595
4 Azeri+Russian_Tambov @ 7.889931
5 Azeri+Russian_Oryol @ 7.895704
6 Azeri+Belarusian_East @ 7.964358
7 Kurd+Ukrainian_North_East @ 7.964687
8 Kurd+Russian_Tambov @ 8.040115
9 Kurd+Russian_Oryol @ 8.067225
10 Azeri+Russian_Kursk @ 8.102368
11 Turkey_average+Moksha @ 8.132714
12 Kurd+Belarusian_East @ 8.175726
13 Kurd+Russian_Kursk @ 8.244099
14 Azeri+Russian_Smolensk @ 8.29105
15 Azeri+Ukrainian_Central @ 8.309299
16 Azeri+Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 8.319287
17 Azeri+Russian_Tver @ 8.344204
18 Kurd+Moksha @ 8.414507
19 Kurd+Russian_Smolensk @ 8.477953
20 Azeri+Russian_Rostov @ 8.500074
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Kurd @ 6.768605
2 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Azeri +25% Azeri_Dagestan @ 6.921963
3 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Armenian +25% Azeri_Dagestan @ 6.952151
4 50% Russian_Center +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Kurd @ 7.01345
5 50% Russian_Center +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Turkey_average @ 7.145982
6 50% Russian_Center +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Caucasus_Jews @ 7.147553
7 50% Russian_Center +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Azeri_Jews @ 7.171071
8 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Azeri_Igdir +25% Azeri_Dagestan @ 7.178115
9 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Caucasus_Jews @ 7.183229
10 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Azeri_Jews @ 7.199492
11 50% Russian_Tambov +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Kurd @ 7.218649
12 50% Belarusian_East +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Kurd @ 7.239216
13 50% Azeri +25% Moksha +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 7.241805
14 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Iran +25% Azeri_Dagestan @ 7.263447
15 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Turkey_average @ 7.274302
16 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Turkish_Anatolia @ 7.285353
17 50% Belarusian_East +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Caucasus_Jews @ 7.286781
18 50% Russian_Center +25% Azeri +25% Azeri_Dagestan @ 7.289636
19 50% Russian_Tambov +25% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Turkey_average @ 7.290145
20 50% Russian_Center +25% Armenian +25% Azeri_Dagestan @ 7.290356
12365518 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Russian_Tver+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.613625
2 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.639274
3 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.6506
4 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.654465
5 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Russian_Rostov+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.682014
6 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.68843
7 Azeri_Dagestan+Azeri_Jews+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.696772
8 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.701317
9 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.709885
10 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Russian_Tambov+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.727277
11 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Belarusian_East+Moksha @ 6.733009
12 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.74792
13 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Belarusian_East+Moksha @ 6.753925
14 Azeri_Dagestan+Azeri_Jews+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.756036
15 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Tver+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.75872
16 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.768605
17 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.772426
18 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Russian_Tver+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.793384
19 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Lithuanian+Moksha @ 6.816899
20 Azeri_Dagestan+Azeri_Jews+Belarusian_East+Moksha @ 6.817412
21 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Russian_Tver+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.818952
22 Azeri+Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Tver+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.823975
23 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Belarusian_East+Erzya @ 6.825572
24 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Lithuanian+Moksha @ 6.828221
25 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Russian_Vyatka+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.838234
26 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.841168
27 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Rostov+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.860219
28 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Belarusian_East+Erzya @ 6.867102
29 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Belarusian_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.867877
30 Azeri_Dagestan+Azeri_Jews+Russian_Tver+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.868549
31 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Russian_North_Solvychegodsk+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.868611
32 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Ukrainian_Chernigov+Moksha @ 6.868966
33 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Latvian+Moksha @ 6.87419
34 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Ukrainian_Chernigov+Moksha @ 6.88527
35 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Russian_Rostov+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.89068
36 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Latvian+Moksha @ 6.897505
37 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkish_Anatolia+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.904392
38 Azeri+Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Rostov+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6.907568
39 Azeri_Dagestan+Azeri_Jews+Belarusian_East+Erzya @ 6.913328
40 Azeri_Dagestan+Turkey_average+Russian_Bryansk+Moksha @ 6.921071
235225045 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0.130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 BLG_Turk @ 8.518695
2 Kumyk @ 8.784692
3 Greek_Azov @ 9.184737
4 Tatar_Crimea_Steppe @ 9.387935
5 South_Romania @ 9.611154
6 Romania_SE @ 9.991747
7 Moldavian @ 10.514621
8 Tatar_Crimea_Coast @ 10.590443
9 Uzbek @ 11.011246
10 NE_Romania @ 11.505475
11 Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 12.097558
12 Karakalpak @ 12.459776
13 Turkmen @ 12.460457
14 Kabardinian @ 12.507102
15 Hungary @ 12.593672
16 Balkar @ 12.782259
17 Azeri_Dagestan @ 12.886854
18 Bulgaria @ 13.019556
19 Chechen @ 13.801089
20 Tatar_Volga @ 14.324447
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Armenian+Erzya @ 5.11269
2 Kurd+Russian_Oryol @ 5.167647
3 Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Oryol @ 5.19466
4 Kurd+Russian_Center @ 5.196069
5 Azeri_Dagestan+Ukrainian_North_East @ 5.226479
6 Armenian+Russian_Tver @ 5.246126
7 Armenian+Moksha @ 5.250806
8 Kurd+Russian_Rostov @ 5.251285
9 Kurd+Erzya @ 5.254842
10 Armenian+Russian_Rostov @ 5.273111
11 Armenian+Russian_Center @ 5.27343
12 Armenian+Russian_Oryol @ 5.277479
13 Kurd+Russian_Tver @ 5.284198
14 Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Rostov @ 5.297317
15 Kurd+Ukrainian_North_East @ 5.304085
16 Kurd+Belarusian_East @ 5.32187
17 Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Center @ 5.33474
18 Kurd+Moksha @ 5.356621
19 Armenian+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 5.383063
20 Azeri_Dagestan+Erzya @ 5.38693
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Tabassaran +25% Armenian @ 4.852609
2 50% Armenian +25% Lithuanian +25% Erzya @ 4.860757
3 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Kumyk +25% Armenian @ 4.880963
4 50% Armenian +25% Erzya +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.908457
5 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Kumyk +25% Kurd @ 4.919382
6 50% Kurd +25% Erzya +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.934462
7 50% Azeri_Dagestan +25% Erzya +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.955843
8 50% Kurd +25% Belarusian_East +25% Erzya @ 4.9564
9 50% Kurd +25% Lithuanian +25% Erzya @ 4.957624
10 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Tabassaran +25% Kurd @ 4.968339
11 50% Armenian +25% Latvian +25% Erzya @ 4.971163
12 50% Russian_Oryol +25% Kumyk +25% Armenian @ 4.983429
13 50% Armenian +25% Belarusian_East +25% Erzya @ 4.989595
14 50% Armenian +25% Russian_Oryol +25% Erzya @ 5.006473
15 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Assyrian +25% Tabassaran @ 5.010449
16 50% Armenian +25% Lithuanian +25% Moksha @ 5.010977
17 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Tabassaran +25% Iraqi_Jews @ 5.015985
18 50% Kurd +25% Ukrainian_Chernigov +25% Erzya @ 5.018264
19 50% Russian_Oryol +25% Tabassaran +25% Armenian @ 5.023356
20 50% Kurd +25% Russian_Oryol +25% Erzya @ 5.036057
18259613 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.742538
2 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.759535
3 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.787609
4 Kumyk+Armenian+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.814449
5 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.830595
6 Tabassaran+Armenian+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.852609
7 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Belarusian_East+Erzya @ 4.854913
8 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.85516
9 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Belarusian_East+Erzya @ 4.858293
10 Armenian+Armenian+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.860757
11 Armenian+Kurd+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.861022
12 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Oryol+Erzya @ 4.867075
13 Kumyk+Kurd+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.869631
14 Kumyk+Armenian+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.880963
15 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Ukrainian_Chernigov+Erzya @ 4.883977
16 Kumyk+Caucasus_Jews+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.884691
17 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Ukrainian_Chernigov+Erzya @ 4.885011
18 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Belarusian_Polesye+Erzya @ 4.88606
19 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Latvian+Erzya @ 4.886381
20 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.889326
21 Kumyk+Kurd+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.890094
22 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.896115
23 Azeri_Dagestan+Caucasus_Jews+Belarusian_East+Erzya @ 4.903549
24 Armenian+Armenian+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.908457
25 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Bryansk+Erzya @ 4.911134
26 Azeri_Dagestan+GR_Pontic+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.91119
27 Armenian+Kurd+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.912489
28 Kumyk+Armenian+Russian_Oryol+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.915369
29 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Russian_Oryol+Erzya @ 4.916156
30 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Belarusian_Polesye+Erzya @ 4.916337
31 Tabassaran+Armenian+Russian_Oryol+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.918472
32 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Ukrainian_Central+Erzya @ 4.918702
33 Kumyk+Kurd+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.919382
34 Kumyk+Armenian+Latvian+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.92481
35 Kumyk+Armenian+Lithuanian+Erzya @ 4.927872
36 Kumyk+Armenian+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.929258
37 Azeri_Dagestan+Kurd+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.932782
38 Kurd+Kurd+Erzya+Ukrainian_North_East @ 4.934462
39 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Russian_Kursk+Erzya @ 4.93486
40 Armenian+Azeri_Dagestan+Lithuanian+Moksha @ 4.935597
547033565 iterations.